# US national lockdown coming...as early as Tuesday **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [March 16, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559 "2020-03-16T01:22:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/21 "2020-03-16T13:46:22Z")
University of Virginia has put together a pretty good GIS app that gives an overview of countries effected. [COVID-19 Surveillance Dashboard](http://ncov.bii.virginia.edu/dashboard/) ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/22 "2020-03-16T14:09:44Z")
I would be shocked, if they do institute some kind of lockdown, that it would initially be anything like 8 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/23 "2020-03-16T14:10:52Z")
There is a rumor floating around out there, but at this time it’s [false](https://twitter.com/WHNSC/status/1239398218292748292?s=20). That being said, a number of the counties around here are almost there, & if it’s as bad as they say it’s probably not a bad idea. > [@asahi](#): > > Shit, on St. Patty’s day no less. Think about all that green beer that’s going to waste! Then it won’t go to waist. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/24 "2020-03-16T14:23:46Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > I have heard from several credible sources The more I think about this, the more interesting it is. I do not think I _know_ any “credible sources” for information like this, let alone “several credible sources”. Who is credible, really? If they are telling the OP this information, doesn’t their credibility automatically fall a notch or two? I mean, we have proof that the OP is not someone who would keep this information to himself, right? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/25 "2020-03-16T15:03:02Z")
The day of several primaries? :dubious: Sounds like a rumor. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/26 "2020-03-16T15:10:06Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Who is credible, really? If they are telling the OP this information, doesn’t their credibility automatically fall a notch or two? I mean, we have proof that the OP is not someone who would keep this information to himself, right? No. I have no idea how credible the sources are but people do spill this type of stuff. They want their mom/brother/best friend to buy groceries before it’s too late. They blab after a couple drinks. “Can’t keep a big secret” /= “not credible”. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/27 "2020-03-16T15:23:01Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Seems to me that ultimately, they have the military and sovereign immunity, so really they CAN do it, and worry about the legal fallout later, IF they even allow the states or anyone else to sue them about it. As a practical matter, I don’t think the federal government has the capacity to maintain a nationwide shutdown. There’s not enough troops and federal agents. It’ll be the state governors who’ll need to enforce any shutdowns. As a matter of law, I don’t think the federal government can claim sovereign immunity from a lawsuit by a state. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/28 "2020-03-16T15:48:17Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > As a matter of law, I don’t think the federal government can claim sovereign immunity from a lawsuit by a state. AFAIK, the whole sovereign immunity concept is absolute, unless specifically waived by the sovereign. And also, I think that states can’t even be sued by other states without their own consent even in Federal court under the sovereign immunity doctrine. ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/29 "2020-03-16T16:28:17Z")
The state of Maryland has ordered all bars, restaurants, gyms, and movie theaters to close as of 5pm today. No time limit was given. There can still be carry out and food delivery services though. This is going to be very interesting around here now. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/30 "2020-03-16T16:55:19Z")
Anyone here in L.A.? A friend texted today that his daughter is there and that the city is “locked down.” Can anyone confirm? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/31 "2020-03-16T16:57:05Z")
SC SAYS TEXT MESSAGES ABOUT A CORONAVIRUS NATIONAL QUARANTINE ARE FAKE, THERE IS NO NATIONAL LOCKDOWN > **[NSC Says Text Messages About a Coronavirus National Quarantine Are Fake](https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-national-quarentine-shutdown-texts-1492440?fbclid=IwAR0UjgxkgSJaIhfVVEB5pIgXrf-9y44K9KC4hKW4i5gYWowBs8Bq2OdTHBw)** > > The government confirmed message that has been circulating from from someone's "friend in the military" is a hoax. > [@](#): > > The White House has assured citizens that rumors being spread via text message claiming the government is due to implement a national quarantine in order to deal with the threat of the coronavirus are fake. > > The National Security Council (NSC) issued a statement confirming that the texts suggesting that President Donald Trump will enforce a two-week period of national quarantine within the next 72 hours after evoking the Stafford Act are a hoax. > > “There is no national lockdown,” the NSC tweeted. “The Disease Control and Prevention [CDC] has and will continue to post the latest guidance on COVID-19.” > > The message, which claims to be from someone’s “friend in the military,” advises people to stock up on two weeks worth of supplies and to forward the text onto other people to warn them too. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/32 "2020-03-16T16:58:52Z")
So, in other words, there’s going to be a lockdown. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/33 "2020-03-16T17:35:03Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Anyone here in L.A.? A friend texted today that his daughter is there and that the city is “locked down.” Can anyone confirm? From another thread: > [@Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2020-breaking-news/847758/1001): > > Los Angeles is now [officially on lockdown](https://www.lamayor.org/mayor-garcetti-issues-temporary-restrictions-help-slow-spread-novel-coronavirus-protect-public)- theaters closed, no dine-in at restaurants, bars and clubs closed, gyms and fitness centers closed, bowling alleys. > > I wonder what the effect on other cities in LA county is going to be. The South Bay is a mosaic of small towns, each with its own local government, but when the big dog barks, the little dogs usually fall in line. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/34 "2020-03-16T18:18:06Z")
What’s described in that text isn’t a “lock-down”–it’s closure of some types of business. Are people required to stay home? Is the post office closed? Are there guards in the street enforcing a curfew or quarantine? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/35 "2020-03-16T19:20:01Z")
I have dismissed claims of a national “lockdown” as stupid, unnecessary, and outside the realm of any official, but then I saw this: “\*The White House has assured citizens that rumors being spread . . . \*” and figured that if Trump denies it, I should not dismiss it out of hand. (It is not going to happen, but it would be a Trump sort of action to both deny it and try to simultaneously order it.) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/36 "2020-03-16T19:26:48Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I have dismissed claims of a national “lockdown” as stupid, unnecessary, and outside the realm of any official, but then I saw this: > “\*The White House has assured citizens that rumors being spread . . . \*” and figured that if Trump denies it, I should not dismiss it out of hand. > (It is not going to happen, but **it would be a Trump sort of action to both deny it and try to simultaneously order it**.) My bold. Definitely his M.O. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/37 "2020-03-16T19:32:40Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > I have heard from several credible sources that as early as Tuesday March 17th, that the US federal government will be instituting a national lockdown, similar to what has been done in France and Spain, and could last as long as 8 weeks. What are these sources? ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/38 "2020-03-16T19:37:33Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > What are these sources? Stringer Bell? (he did test positive) ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/39 "2020-03-16T20:13:35Z")
I have dismissed claims of a national “lockdown” as stupid, unnecessary, and outside the realm of any official, but then I saw this: “\*The White House has assured citizens that rumors being spread . . . \*” and figured that if Trump denies it, I should not dismiss it out of hand. (It is not going to happen, but it would be a Trump sort of action to both deny it and try to simultaneously order it.) ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-national-lockdown-coming-as-early-as-tuesday/849559/40 "2020-03-16T20:27:23Z")
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