# US Navy gets new aircraft carrier **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 1, 2017, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862 "2017-06-01T18:59:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/1 "2017-06-01T18:59:53Z")
CVN-78, the USS _Gerald R. Ford_, [has been delivered](http://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2017/06/01/navy_gets_its_ford_129_billion_aircraft_carrier_delivered_111503.html). The 100,000 behemoth is still a few years away from being ready to fight ISIS / North Korea / Decepticons, but it is an exciting day for the Navy. ---
**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/2 "2017-06-01T19:53:08Z")
They would have brought it home last week but the salesman was a pain in the ass about the undercoating, so the navy had to shop around to other dealers to get the sale pushed through… ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/3 "2017-06-01T20:15:39Z")
Ahhhhh, nothing like that"new ship" smell… ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/4 "2017-06-01T20:16:13Z")
In tangentially related news, the Navy has released some photos of the USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) and USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76) operating together in the Sea of Japan. They’re pretty cool if you think aircraft carriers are cool: [http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/170601-N-OY799-1389.JPG](http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/170601-N-OY799-1389.JPG) [http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/170601-N-GD109-195.JPG](http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/170601-N-GD109-195.JPG) [http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/170601-N-GD109-200.JPG](http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/170601-N-GD109-200.JPG) [http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/170601-N-GD109-070.jpg](http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/170601-N-GD109-070.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/5 "2017-06-01T20:26:22Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/6 "2017-06-01T20:43:09Z")
Bah. Let me know when the first helicarrier is delivered. Also, I have to doubt that any future _Star Trek_ series will open with words like these: “Space. The Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship _Gerald R. Ford_. Its continuing mission…” ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/7 "2017-06-02T01:24:28Z")
Don’t worry, the next Big E is due around 2025. It will be CVN-79. The combined collective pleas of Trekkies and Navy History buffs convinced them there should be a new Enterprise carrier. ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/8 "2017-06-02T10:57:05Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Don’t worry, the next Big E is due around 2025. It will be CVN-79. > > The combined collective pleas of Trekkies and Navy History buffs convinced them there should be a new Enterprise carrier. It would have been sooner, but the navy declined the CDW insurance and so the sales guy is being an ass about every single scuff and ding. Plus, they booked a 5 door automatic but ended up with a tiny 3 door manual. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/9 "2017-06-02T12:12:18Z")
So when do they take it out and get it on plane? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/10 "2017-06-02T12:48:28Z")
**Correction** : the next Ford class carrier will be CVN-79 John F. Kennedy. The **CVN-80** Enterprise! The JFK has had its keep laid. The Enterprise is only in planning. Nice little factoid, some of the steel from CVN-65, The Enterprise, will be recycled and used to build CVN-80. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/11 "2017-06-02T13:17:10Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Bah. Let me know when the first helicarrier is delivered. > > Also, I have to doubt that any future _Star Trek_ series will open with words like these: > > “Space. The Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship _Gerald R. Ford_. Its continuing mission…” “to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilization, to boldly pardon the USS Richard M. Nixon.” ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/12 "2017-06-02T13:45:00Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > In tangentially related news, the Navy has released some photos of the USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) and USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76) operating together in the Sea of Japan. They’re pretty cool if you think aircraft carriers are cool: > > [http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/170601-N-OY799-1389.JPG](http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/170601-N-OY799-1389.JPG) > > [http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/170601-N-GD109-195.JPG](http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/170601-N-GD109-195.JPG) > > [http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/170601-N-GD109-200.JPG](http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/170601-N-GD109-200.JPG) > > [http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/170601-N-GD109-070.jpg](http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/170601-N-GD109-070.jpg) Neat! Makes me wonder what the ops are to make sure aircraft land on the correct carrier. ---
**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/13 "2017-06-02T15:42:33Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > **Correction** : the next Ford class carrier will be CVN-79 John F. Kennedy. The **CVN-80** Enterprise! The JFK has had its keep laid. The Enterprise is only in planning. > > Nice little factoid, some of the steel from CVN-65, The Enterprise, will be recycled and used to build CVN-80. This is correct, and there was a lot of petitioning by those of us who served on CVN-65 to have a new Enterprise. The Captain’s quarters onboard USS Enterprise CVN-65 had porthole windows that were salvaged from USS Enterprise CV-6, so it’s cool to see the tradition continuing. I hope they re-use the portholes from CV-6 as well. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/14 "2017-06-02T15:58:27Z")
Trump’s comments in that article are a great example of “penny wise and pound foolish.” If we should ditch EMALS because of the initial delays and cost overruns, well then we might as well have never had F-22, F-35, Seawolf, Virginia-class, B-2, etc. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/15 "2017-06-02T15:58:49Z")
> [@August\_West](#): > > This is correct, and there was a lot of petitioning by those of us who served on CVN-65 to have a new Enterprise. > > The Captain’s quarters onboard USS Enterprise CVN-65 had porthole windows that were salvaged from USS Enterprise CV-6, so it’s cool to see the tradition continuing. I hope they re-use the portholes from CV-6 as well. I signed at least 1 of the petitions. CV-6 is the most decorate ship in US history. At one point she was our main defense in the Pacific. CVN-65 as the first nuclear powered Carrier continue the tradition of great service and making history. So I look forward to CVN-80 as the third Big “E”. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/16 "2017-06-02T16:26:28Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Neat! > > Makes me wonder what the ops are to make sure aircraft land on the correct carrier. A pilot who lands on the wrong ship has to buy them a case of beer. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/17 "2017-06-02T16:55:08Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > > [@Pleonast](#): > > > > Neat! > > > > Makes me wonder what the ops are to make sure aircraft land on the correct carrier. > > A pilot who lands on the wrong ship has to buy them a case of beer. I was figuring it was more like, “put on this immersion suit; start swimming”. 😉 But it must be a problem that occurs from time to time. No navigation system (computer and/or human) is error-free. The towers have the hull number on, do the flight decks? ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/18 "2017-06-02T19:31:15Z")
> [@2gigch1](#): > > They would have brought it home last week but the salesman was a pain in the ass about the undercoating, so the navy had to shop around to other dealers to get the sale pushed through… That, and a little old lady from Pasadena was looking at it in the morning, so the US just _had_ to pull the trigger on the deal. > [@What\_Exit](#): > > \*\*The JFK has had its keep laid. Of course it has. [keel that is] ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/19 "2017-06-02T19:40:17Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > But it must be a problem that occurs from time to time. No navigation system (computer and/or human) is error-free. The towers have the hull number on, do the flight decks? They do have the numbers on the flight deck. Largely due to the problems you’re suspecting back in WWII. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862/20 "2017-06-02T19:57:37Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > CVN-78, the USS _Gerald R. Ford_, [has been delivered](http://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2017/06/01/navy_gets_its_ford_129_billion_aircraft_carrier_delivered_111503.html). The 100,000 behemoth is still a few years away from being ready to fight ISIS / North Korea / Decepticons, but it is an exciting day for the Navy. Pardon me for being pedantic, but I thought it didn’t become “USS” Gerald R. Ford until its commissioning. > [@What\_Exit](#): > > **Correction** : the next Ford class carrier will be CVN-79 John F. Kennedy. The **CVN-80** Enterprise! The JFK has had its keep laid. The Enterprise is only in planning. > > Nice little factoid, some of the steel from CVN-65, The Enterprise, will be recycled and used to build CVN-80. And then they can transfer Captain James Kirk from the USS Zumwalt to command it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-navy-gets-new-aircraft-carrier/787862.md?page=2)