# US Nuland caught on tape: \*\*CK the EU! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 7, 2014, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744 "2014-02-07T09:12:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/41 "2014-02-07T17:38:06Z")
The tape seems pretty unobjectionable. She’s dismissive of the EU helping to work with Ukranian opposition leaders, but listening to the recording, there isn’t really any context as to why she is dismissive to them, so I’m not sure there’s really anything for the Europeans to get upset about (unless they get the vapors about someone using a bad work regarding them in private conversation). Seems kind of silly for the Russians to waste this gimick on such a benign conversation. I get the US doesn’t have much place to complain about the eavesdropping itself, but if you’re going to reveal you have the embassy phone tapped, it seems like you’d want to do so on something other then causing extremely mild embarrassment to a diplomat no ones ever heard of. ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/42 "2014-02-07T17:40:34Z")
Believe it or not, I think its release is due to Putin’s sense of humour. That and to make today in particular a feegood win/win for the Russian people. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/43 "2014-02-07T17:41:55Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > Ftr, I resent “meaningless”. For that matter, it implies you’re _not_ actually a beer soaked lout. . ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/44 "2014-02-07T17:42:49Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > something to do with “dragging” and “kicking and screaming”. It’s all very _visual._ It’s not all visual…some of it is gastronomic. It’s much better to bring your beer soaked lout to harvest when they are kicking and screaming if you want that good down home fear taste. _looks speculatively at BrokenBriton_ Want another beer? ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/45 "2014-02-07T17:49:01Z")
Not if it’s American … ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/46 "2014-02-07T17:50:13Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > something to do with “dragging” and “kicking and screaming”. It’s all very _visual._ > [@BrokenBriton](#): > > Ftr, I resent “meaningless”. Fuck it. I’ll have what you’re having. Round’s on me. To Putin’s sense of humour! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/47 "2014-02-07T17:53:58Z")
Yay! To Vlad, that gay hating, homoerotic posing crazy Russian humour guy… > [@andros](#): > > For that matter, it implies you’re _not_ actually a beer soaked lout. > . Well, I resent that as well. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/48 "2014-02-07T18:05:53Z")
Governments are dicks, film at 11. I find it hysterical that folks who work for a government that has become the paragon of privacy-invation & wire-tapping would ever assume a phone conversation is not attached to a megaphone in every city in the world. I’m sorry if they make my country look like it’s run by douchebags but…well, actually, no I’m not. ---
**Author:** ![Cognoscant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Cognoscant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cognoscant)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/49 "2014-02-07T18:29:57Z")
Isn’t “Fuck the EU” the UKIP’s campaign slogan? (Actually, it might be the whole of their party platform.) ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/50 "2014-02-07T19:28:58Z")
> [@Cognoscant](#): > > Isn’t “Fuck the EU” the UKIP’s campaign slogan? It’s certainly a popular chant at Greek soccer games. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/51 "2014-02-07T19:36:43Z")
> [@Cognoscant](#): > > Isn’t “Fuck the EU” the UKIP’s campaign slogan? I thoguht it was a Cee Lo Green song. ---
**Author:** ![Cognoscant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Cognoscant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cognoscant)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/52 "2014-02-07T19:39:54Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > I thoguht it was a Cee Lo Green song. “I see you writin’ regulations all over the place, and I’m like, Fuck the EU, Fuck the EU hoo hoo hoo!” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/53 "2014-02-07T20:35:41Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > I wouldn’t even be surprised if a few EU officials have said “Fuck the EU” at one time or another. I don’t think she should have apologized. Rather, she should say something like “I expressed the same frustration with the EU that many EU members have expressed about each other. Anyone who objects to an expression of frustration during a private phone call is cordially invited by me to go fuck themselves with a rusty bandsaw.” ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/54 "2014-02-08T00:00:59Z")
Well, it looks like the only person who’s upset about this is Angela Merkel. If only Bush were still president, he could give her a shoulder massage and she’d forget all about it. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/55 "2014-02-08T00:28:14Z")
> [@The Great Sun Jester](#): > > Governments are dicks, film at 11. > > I find it hysterical that folks who work for a government that has become the paragon of privacy-invation & wire-tapping would ever assume a phone conversation is not attached to a megaphone in every city in the world. I’m sorry if they make my country look like it’s run by douchebags but…well, actually, no I’m not. Isn’t it the UK that has cameras on every corner? At least that’s what _Law & Order: UK_ tells me. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/56 "2014-02-08T00:34:18Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Well, it looks like the only person who’s upset about this is Angela Merkel. If only Bush were still president, he could give her a shoulder massage and she’d forget all about it. Or she could take a nice ski holiday. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/57 "2014-02-08T01:17:20Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > I’ve got to agree. No debate. I’ll send it off to the Pit for more energetic snarkiness. Bless you, sir! ---
**Author:** ![Snupzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/54ee81/32.png) [@Snupzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snupzilla)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/58 "2014-02-08T05:21:59Z")
> [@Marmite\_Lover](#): > > Thankfully the EU AT LAST seems to be waking up to the madness of being the partner in every American new adventure. I’m glad the Russians released the tape so the Europeans can see again that their alliance with the USA needs to be revised. I’m sure Russia says only lovely things about the EU. ‘Graphic swear word’ oh my! The EU should totally dump America and buddy up with ole Vlady and help him keep Ukraine from having closer ties with that awful EU. F\*\*k those guys! Oh wait they are the EU. This is complicated.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![FightMyIgnorance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71e660/32.png) [@FightMyIgnorance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FightMyIgnorance)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/59 "2014-02-08T10:06:23Z")
The OP has already shown himself to be totally ignorant and hateful towards America, with such correct statements as (not verbatim) “America is run by warlords!”, etc etc. OP, if your entire posting platform here is America sucks, then you might not be on the right site, partly because most users here are American, but mostly because you’re dense. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744/60 "2014-02-08T10:17:44Z")
> [@Cognoscant](#): > > Isn’t “Fuck the EU” the UKIP’s campaign slogan? > > (Actually, it might be the whole of their party platform.) It’s also the BNP’s main rallying cry, but you’re not to make anything of that, because there’s absolutely no relationship or ideological assonance there. _Absolutely none_, and when I say _Absolutely none_ I mean “a certain amount”, to be sure, but nothing the average, upstanding Enoch Powell supporter would lose sleep over. Now, is it me, or does the Thames look red this time of year? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-nuland-caught-on-tape-ck-the-eu/680744.md?page=4)