# US Open (other than you-know-who)

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 18, 2009, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169 "2009-06-18T13:58:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/1 "2009-06-18T13:58:24Z")

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So, who ELSE is most likely to win the Open this week?

I’ll go with Ogilvy. Thought of Zach Johnson and Furyk.

One thing for sure, I think that promotion of a free driver should Sergio win is a safe bet! 😛

If Tiger comes out hot today, he’s gonna win by 7. Even if he does his standard 1st 36-swoon, if he is anywhere near the top at the end of Sat, everyone is gonna come back to him.

I really feel sorry for whoever has to play with Tiger on Sunday. Seems to happen so frequently that some young guy gets hot on Sat, then ends up paired with El Tigre, and starts of doubling the first couple of holes, never to be seen on TV again.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/2 "2009-06-18T14:17:14Z")

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So what does it say about the state of individual sport that I thought this thread was a rather premature tennis one?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/3 "2009-06-18T14:26:55Z")

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Tiger doubled 5 today, but then birdied 6 to get back to +1. He’s only two 2 strokes behind the leaders right now. I’ll go with Vijay Singh as my 2nd pick behind Tiger. Vijay is kind of quietly always around the leaders, and every once in a while ends up with the money.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/4 "2009-06-18T14:29:40Z")

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Well, with the US Open, you never know who’s going to challenge. That’s the one downside of the tournament: it’s won by really good players, but it’s also won by “Open Specialists” and by total unknowns. So handicapping it is a real pain.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/5 "2009-06-18T14:55:12Z")

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I have my money on Sergio Garcia. I took $10 at $41 about him winning and $50 at $9 about him finishing top 5. Since, in majors, he has 6 top 5 finishes in the last 4 years and 14 (35%) since 1999 he is well over the odds.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/6 "2009-06-18T15:11:35Z")

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Rain ☹

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/7 "2009-06-18T16:46:10Z")

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Why don’t I go with the two time major winner Angel Cabrera.

I say he wins this thing sometime Thursday.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/8 "2009-06-18T17:33:56Z")

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> [@drm](#):
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> Why don’t I go with the two time major winner Angel Cabrera.
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> I say he wins this thing sometime Thursday.

This weekend, How can you bet against someone whose nickname is “The Duck”?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/9 "2009-06-18T18:07:38Z")

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The day has officially been called. Play to resume tomorrow at 0730 EDT.

Personally, I’d love to see them suck it up and play in the slop. It’s always fun to see tour pros look like weekend hackers.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/10 "2009-06-18T18:40:48Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> The day has officially been called. Play to resume tomorrow at 0730 EDT.
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> Personally, I’d love to see them suck it up and play in the slop. It’s always fun to see tour pros look like weekend hackers.

I think that should actually be included in the dictionary definition for “schaudenfreude”.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/11 "2009-06-18T19:04:46Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> The day has officially been called. Play to resume tomorrow at 0730 EDT.
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> Personally, I’d love to see them suck it up and play in the slop. It’s always fun to see tour pros look like weekend hackers.

They play pick and place that gives the edge back.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/12 "2009-06-18T19:28:31Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> They play pick and place that gives the edge back.

Not at the Open unless there is no other possible way to play the round. The USGA hates “lift, clean and place.” The USGA hates “local” rules in general. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/13 "2009-06-18T19:32:51Z")

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Yeah, they were saying on ESPN that the Open makes you play it as it lies. They were saying that the PGA wants to move things along so people can get to the next event on the tour, but the USGA doesn’t care how long it takes to get through the US Open.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/14 "2009-06-18T20:14:40Z")

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There’s a chance that they won’t get this in until the middle of next week. The weather is horrible and the pattern is stalled which means more of the same into next week. Saturday could be worse than today and the course is completely flooded right now.

[http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Bethpage&state=NY&site=OKX&textField1=40.7495&textField2=-73.4858&e=0](http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Bethpage&state=NY&site=OKX&textField1=40.7495&textField2=-73.4858&e=0)

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/15 "2009-06-18T21:16:26Z")

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**Dinsdale** , I like your Ogilvy pick.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/16 "2009-06-18T22:05:11Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> **Dinsdale** , I like your Ogilvy pick.

Right now I’m wishing I had chosen Jeff Brehaut or Johan Edfors! 😛

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/17 "2009-06-18T23:44:04Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> The day has officially been called. Play to resume tomorrow at 0730 EDT.
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> Personally, I’d love to see them suck it up and play in the slop. It’s always fun to see tour pros look like weekend hackers.

It’s a bit more than slop. There is standing water on the greens, and huge puddles inches deep in the fairways.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/18 "2009-06-19T00:28:54Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> It’s a bit more than slop. There is standing water on the greens, and huge puddles inches deep in the fairways.

Bah. That’s what the casual water drop is all about. 😃

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/19 "2009-06-19T01:33:02Z")

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If it takes a couple 36 hole days to finish, it will be bad for the older golfers. VJ for one will get a little used up.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-open-other-than-you-know-who/500169/20 "2009-06-19T14:52:20Z")

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Yeah, playing more than 18 is bad enough, but the wet conditions make it even more tiring. I remember an interview with Weir about the Masters he won. There was a rain delay, and he made a couple bogeys at the end of a long day because his legs were getting so sore.

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