# US States No Military? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [March 2, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-states-no-military/998358 "2024-03-02T14:36:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-states-no-military/998358/21 "2024-03-04T14:56:36Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > the Coast Guard is not part of the DoD This points up some odd distinctions within what most folks would consider “the military”. The US has the following Armed Forces: - US Army (Department of Defense) - US Marine Corps (DoD) - US Navy (DoD) - US Air Force (DoD) - US Space Force (DoD) - US Coast Guard (Department of Homeland Security) The US also has unarmed Uniformed Services, which includes all of the Armed Forces plus: - US Public Health Service Commissioned Corps (Department of Health and Human Services) - US National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration Commissioned Officer Corps (Department of Commerce) The USPHSCC is the reason why the United States has a Surgeon General, which is a military health position. The Surgeon General of the United States is a Vice Admiral of the USPHSCC and its commanding officer, as well as being a senior adviser in the US public health system. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-states-no-military/998358/22 "2024-03-04T15:17:30Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > The US also has unarmed Uniformed Services, which includes all of the Armed Forces plus: Too late to edit, but I actually meant to say > [@](#): > > The US also has Uniformed Services, which includes all of the Armed Forces plus the following unarmed services: ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-states-no-military/998358/23 "2024-03-05T04:37:25Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > The USPHSCC is the reason why the United States has a Surgeon General, which is a military health position. The Surgeon General of the United States is a Vice Admiral of the USPHSCC and its commanding officer, as well as being a senior adviser in the US public health system. It wouldn’t be the Dope there wasn’t nitpicking. ADM Rachel Levine is the highest ranking officer in the USPHSCC. She is a full Admiral (4 stars) and is the Assistant Secretary of Health. The Surgeon General is a Vice Admiral (3 stars). The Surgeon General is the operational head of the USPHSCC but he reports to the Assistant Secretary of Health. The ASH is not always a uniformed officer. When the ASH isn’t an Admiral then the Surgeon General is the highest ranking officer. That is not currently the case. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-states-no-military/998358/24 "2024-03-05T04:42:38Z")
Thanks for the correction. It’s FQ so answers need to be factual. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-states-no-military/998358/25 "2024-03-06T23:39:46Z")
Iowa - Iowa Army Ammunition Plant - It’s government owned but contractor operated. Installation Overview IAAAP is housed on 19,011 acres with 767 buildings, 271 igloos and storage capacity of 1,100,775 square feet. It also has 143 miles of roads and 102 miles of railroads. Iowa has a government staff of 25 Department of the Army civilians and one Soldier to provide contract oversight. The government staff has a payroll budget of $2.5 million. Contractor statistics are considered proprietary and therefore are unavailable. Production includes: 40mm High Velocity Family 155mm Artillery 120mm Tank Rounds 60mm/81mm/120mm Mortar Prop Charges M112 Charges/MICLIC (Mine-Clearing Line Charge) 75mm/105mm Salute Rounds TOW/Hellfire/Javelin/Stinger/[2] Sidewinder Warheads Medium- and Large-Caliber Mortars Pressured and Cast Warheads Smart-Munitions Mines/Scatterable Mines Missile Assembly/Missile Warheads Rocket-assisted Projectiles Spider Grenades Demo Charges Detonators Salute Rounds Test Ranges Insensitive Munitions > [@jnglmassiv](#): > > I’ve had some professional contact with the Naval Surface Warfare Center - Crane and, being familiar with Indiana’s coastal geography, was first a bit incredulous that any Navy research was really happening there. Pork barrel military spending, right? Nope, it’s the real deal with science and everything. Regarding Crane - It’s Crane Army Ammunition Activity now. Originally one of four **massive** Navy development, production and storage bases; along with the current McAlester Army Ammunition Plant (OK), Hawthorne Army Depot (NV), and Hastings (Blaine) Naval Ammunition Depot (NB) (largest of all - not active). More than you’d ever want to know:[Iowa Army Ammunition Plant - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_Army_Ammunition_Plant) [Hawthorne Army Depot - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_Army_Depot) [Crane Army Ammunition Activity - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_Army_Ammunition_Activity) [McAlester Army Ammunition Plant - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAlester_Army_Ammunition_Plant) [The Naval Ammunition Depot](https://www.adamshistory.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30:nad&catid=2&Itemid=42) ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-states-no-military/998358/26 "2024-03-09T00:41:58Z")
what about former Ft Harrison, now DFAS? ---
**Author:** ![whc.03grady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a6a055/32.png) [@whc.03grady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whc.03grady)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-states-no-military/998358/27 "2024-03-09T15:44:15Z")
The USN has a very important submarine test center in, counterintuitively, Idaho. (No _real_ submarines there though, unless….) [https://www.navsea.navy.mil/Home/Warfare-Centers/NSWC-Carderock/Who-We-Are/Bayview-Idaho/](https://www.navsea.navy.mil/Home/Warfare-Centers/NSWC-Carderock/Who-We-Are/Bayview-Idaho/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-states-no-military/998358.md?page=1)