# US stuns at WHO over breastfeeding.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 8, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529 "2018-07-08T18:29:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/21 "2018-07-09T02:32:47Z")

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What’s chilling is the number of people who spoke only with the cloak of anonymity, ALL out of fear of retribution.

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**Author:** ![SOJA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@SOJA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SOJA)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/22 "2018-07-09T04:06:04Z")

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Why are people surprised? Everything this administration does is to upset the balance of power.

> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Wow. WTF? Well they do like to deny science, I knew that. But damn, this is really inexplicable in most ways. Nestles is not even a US company. Maybe this was on behalf of Gerber instead?

Are you originally from the UK? I ask because Nestle used to operate as Nestles a really, really long time ago in the UK, and I’ve heard Nestles from British expats who are old enough to remember.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/23 "2018-07-09T04:14:54Z")

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> [@SOJA](#):
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> Why are people surprised? Everything this administration does is to upset the balance of power.
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> Are you originally from the UK? I ask because Nestle used to operate as Nestles a really, really long time ago in the UK, and I’ve heard Nestles from British expats who are old enough to remember.

He sounds like a Michigander to me; we add an ‘s’ onto all of our company names. Fords, K-Marts, Meijers…

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/24 "2018-07-09T04:24:39Z")

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> [@SOJA](#):
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> Are you originally from the UK? I ask because Nestle used to operate as Nestles a really, really long time ago in the UK, and I’ve heard Nestles from British expats who are old enough to remember.

They operated as Nestle’s in multiple locations; in English-speaking ones because it made them sound more local and in non-English-speaking ones because “English is cool” (even more when everybody was scrambling to start learning it).  
And **What Exit?** is from NJ, as his name indicates 😉

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/25 "2018-07-09T04:26:16Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> He sounds like a Michigander to me; we add an ‘s’ onto all of our company names. Fords, K-Marts, Meijers…

We do that a lot here in Chicago, too.

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/26 "2018-07-09T08:47:36Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> From the NYT article:Not entirely a ploy (as [some](https://www.forbes.com/sites/kavinsenapathy/2016/12/20/yet-another-study-claims-and-fails-to-show-that-breastfeeding-is-best/#365ed6af5831) of the research used to promote breastfeeding is shaky), but hypocritical in the extreme, given the [dubious claims](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/feb/01/nestle-under-fire-for-marketing-claims-on-baby-milk-formulas) made by formula marketers (and the administration’s contempt for science in general).

I think that the demand for evidence-based-science, has, in the past, been coupled with de-funding of scientific studies that generate evidence. So my first reaction would be that inserting language about evidence based science is /entirely/ a ploy.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/27 "2018-07-09T13:01:58Z")

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> [@SOJA](#):
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> Why are people surprised? Everything this administration does is to upset the balance of power.
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> Are you originally from the UK? I ask because Nestle used to operate as Nestles a really, really long time ago in the UK, and I’ve heard Nestles from British expats who are old enough to remember.

Upsetting power balance is only a side effect of doing everything he can to monetize every single [publicly funded gov’t thing for private profit](https://rebusinessonline.com/easterly-government-properties-to-buy-1-5-msf-government-leased-office-portfolio-for-430m/). If he could sell the meat of immigrant people by the pound Trump would let them flow in unimpeded.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/28 "2018-07-09T13:06:47Z")

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> [@SOJA](#):
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> Are you originally from the UK? I ask because Nestle used to operate as Nestles a really, really long time ago in the UK, and I’ve heard Nestles from British expats who are old enough to remember.

The op used Nestles, so I did without thinking about it. As Nava pointed out, I’m from New Jersey.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/29 "2018-07-09T13:25:25Z")

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> [@SOJA](#):
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> Are you originally from the UK? I ask because Nestle used to operate as Nestles a really, really long time ago in the UK, and I’ve heard Nestles from British expats who are old enough to remember.

[N-E-S-T-L-E-S. Nestle’s makes the very best chawk-let](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZi2og1YQJA).

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/30 "2018-07-09T13:28:04Z")

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Should it be: US stuns WHOM?

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/31 "2018-07-09T13:45:16Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Should it be: US stuns WHOM?

US stuns [WHOMST.](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/whomst)

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**Author:** ![Mk\_VII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mk\_VII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mk_VII)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/32 "2018-07-09T13:54:03Z")

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They used to themselves Nestles here, but now they seem to have morphed into Nestlé

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/33 "2018-07-09T15:48:14Z")

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> [@Mk\_VII](#):
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> They used to themselves Nestles here, but now they seem to have morphed into Nestlé

Which ruins the old jungle: N E S T L E … ??? Nestle makes the very b??? … chocolate.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/34 "2018-07-09T16:13:32Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> From the NYT article:Not entirely a ploy (as [some](https://www.forbes.com/sites/kavinsenapathy/2016/12/20/yet-another-study-claims-and-fails-to-show-that-breastfeeding-is-best/#365ed6af5831) of the research used to promote breastfeeding is shaky), but hypocritical in the extreme, given the [dubious claims](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/feb/01/nestle-under-fire-for-marketing-claims-on-baby-milk-formulas) made by formula marketers (and the administration’s contempt for science in general).

Thanks for pointing that out, the ‘breast is best’ crowd drives me NUTS with their overstated claims and absolutism.

But for most women, and overwhelmingly women in the third world, breast is best. It is ECONOMICALLY far superior - especially if you aren’t trying to hold a job and breastfeed (when an economic argument could be made that formula makes sense - depending on your job and the attitude of your employer) and when you don’t have an easily accessible and free source of clean water (canned formula being crushingly expensive) its FAR safer.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/35 "2018-07-09T16:18:04Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Tacky comment follows. You’ve been warned. Trump believes breasts shouldn’t be hogged by babies.

Yeah, what the hell do babies have to do with breasts anyway…

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/36 "2018-07-09T16:54:28Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I wouldn’t find it surprising in the least if I heard that Loser Donald refused to let his children be breast-fed.

That would involve some basic level of involvement on his part. My money says he has no idea if they did or didn’t.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/37 "2018-07-09T17:21:59Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> That would involve some basic level of involvement on his part. My money says he has no idea if they did or didn’t.

:dubious:  
Tits are serious business for the Don. No doubt he has been involved in care and maintenance.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/38 "2018-07-09T17:27:41Z")

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> [@ak84](#):
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> yeah, what the hell do babies have to do with breasts anyway…

Exactly!

Breasts are for the enjoyment of grown men, not for dumb little babies.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/39 "2018-07-09T17:53:56Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Exactly!
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> Breasts are for the enjoyment of grown men, not for dumb little babies.

That would be a big problem for Trump.

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**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-stuns-at-who-over-breastfeeding/817529/40 "2018-07-09T18:28:42Z")

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> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> Not unless they agree to be hooked up to a milking machine so the administration and its partners can benefit from those selfish bitches wasting their time putting something meant to look sexy for men to enjoy in a baby’s mouth. :rolleyes:

Hey, it was Obama who hooked women up to milking machines when he mandated that all health insurance has to provide breast pumps postpartum.

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