# US to Attack Iran?

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**Created:** [April 4, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-to-attack-iran/1016596 "2025-04-04T02:55:05Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-to-attack-iran/1016596/1 "2025-04-04T02:55:05Z")

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The US has moved two aircraft carrier battle groups to the area, transported PATRIOT and THAAD air defense systems to semi-allied nearby nations, and positioned 5 of 19 B-2 bombers at Diego Garcia. This is in support of Trump’s threatening Iran to return to nuclear disarmament negotiations. A bluff? He claims to be anti-war but his actions are anything but.

[https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-says-there-will-be-bombing-if-iran-does-not-make-nuclear-deal-2025-03-30/](https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-says-there-will-be-bombing-if-iran-does-not-make-nuclear-deal-2025-03-30/)

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-to-attack-iran/1016596/2 "2025-04-04T03:50:33Z")

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Trump likes to pair actions to give cover for things. For example, he’ll do things like release the JFK files at the same time that he shuts down anti-money laundering initiatives. He gets to put out messages that he’s cutting out the Deep State while setting the scene for his own corruption.

So I note, today, that the US military is planning to cut headcount significantly:

> **[Army Planners Are Weighing Force Reductions of Up to 90,000 Active-Duty Soldiers](https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/04/03/army-mulling-dramatic-reduction-of-tens-of-thousands-of-troops.html)**
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> The Army is quietly considering a sweeping reduction of up to 90,000 active-duty troops, a move that underscores mounting fiscal pressures at the Pentagon and a broader shift in military strategy away from Europe and counterterrorism.

Making a seemingly aggressive military move would cover defense cuts.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-to-attack-iran/1016596/3 "2025-04-07T21:08:58Z")

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The transfer of military equipment to the Middle East continues, with a C-17A and a C-5M both originating from Korea, crossing Europe towards(CENTCOM). With another C-5M from Ramstein Air Base,to the Middle East. Since March 25th, over 120 flights arrived in the region, including C-17s, C-5s, C-130s, KC-135s, and KC-46s.

An additional THAAD (anti-ballistic missile system) has been sent to Israel.

This isn’t an exercise.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-to-attack-iran/1016596/4 "2025-04-07T21:18:40Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Trump likes to pair actions to give cover for things.

Let’s have a war!  
Jack up the Dow Jones!  
Let’s have a war!  
It can start in New Jersey!  
Let’s have a war!  
Blame it on the middle-class!  
Let’s have a war!  
We’re like rats in a cage!

Great distraction from the tariff implosion, sez I.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-to-attack-iran/1016596/5 "2025-04-07T23:23:14Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Making a seemingly aggressive military move would cover defense cuts.

Or he (or those associated with him) think they can do a war on the cheap, same idea they had with the invasion of Iraq.

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-to-attack-iran/1016596/6 "2025-04-07T23:30:34Z")

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I’ve been assuming that when the Dow hits -30% he’ll start a war to distract. Maybe they’re preparing.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-to-attack-iran/1016596/7 "2025-04-08T00:32:33Z")

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If they do attack Iran, what are their targets? When Israel attacked Iran last year, they targeted their air defenses, rocket fuel manufacturing facilities, and nuclear programs.

> **[October 2024 Israeli strikes on Iran | Strikes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2024_Israeli_strikes_on_Iran#Strikes)**
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> In the early hours of 26 October 2024, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) began conducting airstrikes on military targets in Iran. The IDF stated that the strikes were conducted in response to the Iranian strikes against Israel on 1 October and due to militant actions by proxy members of the Axis of Resistance. Just prior to the attacks, Israel notified the United States' Biden administration about the impending attacks on Iran. The strikes continued through the night until dawn in Iran, mar The Jer...

Also Trump makes more sense when you understand he is a malignant narcissist. Iran has been trying to kill Trump ever since his administration killed Soleimani in 2020.

[https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/08/donald-trump-iran-assassination-plot-00188498](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/08/donald-trump-iran-assassination-plot-00188498)

> According to a [criminal complaint](https://static.politico.com/de/37/242bb1904914b9557271106ea8c7/u-s-v-shakeri-et-al-complaint.pdf) unsealed in Manhattan federal court, Shakeri said during an FBI interview that in September he was directed by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps of Iran to surveil and kill Trump, whom the charging papers identify as “Victim-4.”
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> When Shakeri told an IRGC official that doing so would prove expensive, the official responded that “money’s not an issue,” which Shakeri “understood to mean that the IRGC previously had spent a significant sum of money on efforts to murder Victim-4 and was willing to continue spending a lot of money in its attempt to procure Victim-4’s assassination,” according to the charging papers.

This could be like the Iraq war, where a big factor in the war was George W Bush taking revenge on the government that tried to kill his dad. Maybe Trump wants revenge against Iran for trying to kill him.

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> If they do attack Iran, what are their targets?

Population centers. Any attack will be about Trumpian spite, not rational military goals.

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**Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-to-attack-iran/1016596/9 "2025-05-09T13:10:06Z")

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More firepower in the region. Four B-52s have arrived in Diego Garcia in addition to the six B-2 bombers currently there. It’s getting crowded with the tankers and other large support aircraft.  
Additional pressure on Iran? Or just relief for some /all of the B-2s? Its expensive and not easy to msintain the stealth coatings on a B-2.

> **[B-52s Join B-2s On Diego Garcia,10 Bombers Now At Indian Ocean Island](https://www.twz.com/air/b-52s-join-b-2s-on-diego-garcia10-bombers-now-on-indian-ocean-island)**
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> This is the most bombers seen at Diego Garcia for many years, but it's very likely that at least some of the B-2s will rotate back home soon.

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-to-attack-iran/1016596/10 "2025-06-12T21:54:52Z")

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**Trump warns a strike on Iran ‘could very well happen’ if no nuclear deal is signed**

> President Trump warned Thursday that a “massive conflict” could break out in the Middle East over the issue of Iran’s nuclear program but said he wants a diplomatic resolution, after the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog found that Tehran had failed to comply with its nonproliferation obligations for the first time in two decades.
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> Trump has said recently that he has held Israel back from attacking Iran’s nuclear processing facilities, and threatened that if the current talks between the United States and Iran don’t curb the latter’s ability to enrich uranium, then military strikes are an option.

[https://www.npr.org/2025/06/12/nx-s1-5431758/trump-iran-strike-nuclear](https://www.npr.org/2025/06/12/nx-s1-5431758/trump-iran-strike-nuclear)

And note:

> **[US withdraws some diplomats and military families from Middle East amid Iran...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/11/politics/us-middle-east-security-concerns)**
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> The US State and Defense departments on Wednesday made efforts to arrange the departure of non-essential personnel from locations around the Middle East, according to US officials and sources familiar with the efforts.

It sounds like Israel might attack fairly soon, but not the U.S.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2025, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-to-attack-iran/1016596/11 "2025-06-13T00:25:19Z")

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Talking heads on MSNBC are saying Israel has attacked Iran. No link yet, must have just happened a minute ago.

Edit: found a link via Yahoo News:

> **[Explosions ring out across Iran’s capital as Israel claims it is attacking...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/explosions-ring-across-iran-capital-001346234.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall)**
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> DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — (AP) — Explosions rang out across Iran’s capital as Israel claimed it was attacking the country. People in Tehran, Iran, awoke to the sound of the blast. State television acknowledged the blast.
