# US tries again to extradite Roman Polanski, this time from Poland. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 22, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614 "2015-01-22T20:24:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/41 "2015-01-23T12:55:35Z")
The Polanski sexual abuse case is one of those things I have heard about over the years, but never bothered to read up on, mostly because it seems disgusting (not something I really want to dwell on). Reading the facts presented on [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polanski_sexual_abuse_case) makes my stomach turn. I can’t imagine a 43 year old man ever wanting to do what the article describes. Just absolutely disgusting. How long have the facts of this been out? For instance, would Holywood have known the details back in the days before the internet? I couldn’t imagine reading the details and then wanting to have anything to do with the guy, even acting in one of his films. As far as extraditing him back to the US goes, I really don’t know. In my open, he never served his sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/42 "2015-01-23T14:09:01Z")
Moving from MPSIMS to IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/43 "2015-01-23T16:35:02Z")
> [@sparky\_1](#): > > How long have the facts of this been out? For instance, would Holywood have known the details back in the days before the internet? The facts have been out there pretty much since the beginning. Geimer’s family reported the incident to the police when it happened and Polanski was arrested and charged. Polanski has admitted he had sex with Geimer (and has admitted he has had sex with other teenage girls). But he denies it was rape. He says it was consensual sex and there were no drugs involved. Geimer has also stood by her story throughout the years. She testified at the time that she was drugged and told Polanski no. And she stills says this even though she now says she doesn’t think Polanski deserves to go to prison. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/44 "2015-01-23T16:42:23Z")
The incident occurred on March 10, 1977. Here’s a Washington Post article from March 13: > [@](#): > > LOS ANGELES, March 12, 1977 — Polish film director Roman Polanski, widower of murdered actress Sharon Tate, was free on bond today on charges of luring a 13-year-old girl to the home of Jack Nicholson under the pretext of photographing her, then drugging and raping her. > > Polanski, 43, was arrested by police to Beverly Wilshire Hotel Friday night following the incident Thursday night at Nicholson’s Bel Air home. > > In addition to the rape charges, Polanski also was booked on suspicion of sodomy, child molestation and furnishing dangerous drugs to a minor. He was released on $2,500 bond pending his arraignment March 18. > > Nicholson was reportedly out of town at the time. A spokesman for the district attorney’s office told reporters that Polanski recently met the girl’s mother and arranged for the girl to pose for some photographs for the French edition of Vogue magazine. > > He said Polanski took some pictures at a first photographic session two weeks ago, and among these pictures was one of the girl nude from the waist up. > > He said the mother became angry when she saw the picture and questioned her daughter when she returned home from the second photographic session Thursday night. Officers said the girl told her mother that Polanski had given her a tablet of the powerful tranquilizing drug Quaalude. > > The director then raped the girl and forced her to commit various sex acts with him, police said. > > Polanski made no public comment on his arrest. He surrendered peacefully when he was taken into custody at the hotel. So the story was out in public almost immediately. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/45 "2015-02-26T03:18:49Z")
An update: the Polish court has adjourned to review documents received from the Swiss court which heard the US extradition request against Polanski some years ago: [New effort to get Polanski stalls](http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2015/02/25/new-effort-to-get-polanski-stalls/23990353/). Next hearing likely in April. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/46 "2015-02-26T07:14:12Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > And biased. Polanski has been paying his victim hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years. Because she sued him. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/47 "2015-02-26T12:22:43Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > In other Polanski news, the California trial court has rejected his attempt to have the charges dismissed, partly because Polanski refuses to appear in person: [Court denies Polanski’s motion to dismiss 1977 statutory rape case](http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/24/court-denies-motion-polanskis-rape-case): That is a dumb title to the second article. Not that I would expect more from The Guardian. When you use a drug to incapacitate someone in order to rape them it is not statutory rape, it’s rape rape. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/48 "2015-02-27T05:08:21Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > That is a dumb title to the second article. Not that I would expect more from The Guardian. When you use a drug to incapacitate someone in order to rape them it is not statutory rape, it’s rape rape. In other words, what has sometimes been called a “legitimate rape”. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/49 "2015-02-27T14:31:00Z")
Actually, it was [Whoopi Goldberg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZskUvAGyjQ) who said it wasn’t “rape-rape”. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/50 "2015-10-30T14:52:32Z")
A Polish court has denied the U.S. extradition request, but that won’t be the end of the story: [Polish court rejects U.S. extradition request in Polanski case](http://www.aol.com/article/2015/10/30/polish-court-rejects-u-s-extradition-request-in-polanski-case/21256451/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D874502911) ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/51 "2015-10-30T21:36:58Z")
I really hope when this rapist asshole dies that his grave is constantly vandalized. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/52 "2015-10-31T03:28:14Z")
You wanna start a signup list, or should I? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2015, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/53 "2015-10-31T03:34:06Z")
To desecrate his grave? I’m in. ---
**Author:** ![Mudshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mudshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mudshark)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2015, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/54 "2015-10-31T05:26:35Z")
> [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](#): > > Irrelevant. It should be relevant. Should he serve his time? Absolutely. Should the matter be dropped? Probably. The victim has no interest in it, and from interviews I’ve read, she wants it to be forgotten. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2015, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/55 "2015-10-31T05:55:09Z")
> [@Mudshark](#): > > It should be relevant. > > Should he serve his time? Absolutely. Should the matter be dropped? Probably. The victim has no interest in it, and from interviews I’ve read, she wants it to be forgotten. By that “reasoning”, any criminal whose victims suffer from Stockholm Syndrome should avoid punishment. Perhaps I’m being excessive here, but it would certainly be nice if Polanski would somehow be tricked into going to a country where drone strikes by the CIA were acceptable and the President were to take care of him by that device. Certainly would be a nice thumb in the eyes of the Hollywoodrati and if played right would increase support for the party in the right areas. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2015, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/56 "2015-10-31T06:09:11Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Actually, it was [Whoopi Goldberg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZskUvAGyjQ) who said it wasn’t “rape-rape”. I missed this one before. But it’s just proof that Goldberg is often an idiot. Polanski wasn’t convicted of rape because he was having consensual sex with an underage girl. He was convicted of rape because he forced a woman to have sex when she was telling him no. It doesn’t matter if the victim is thirteen or thirty; that’s “rape-rape”. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2015, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/57 "2015-10-31T07:17:16Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Perhaps I’m being excessive here, but it would certainly be nice if Polanski would somehow be tricked into going to a country where drone strikes by the CIA were acceptable and the President were to take care of him by that device. Certainly would be a nice thumb in the eyes of the Hollywoodrati and if played right would increase support for the party in the right areas. So for this 40 year old crime, which the victim no longer wants pursued and as a result of which has probably lived a considerably more comfortable life financially than she would have otherwise, which originally carried only a $2,500 bond and brief negotiated sentence (albeit about to be renegade on) of time served in Chino, you would choose to have the President of the USA employ the CIA to assassinate him in a foreign country? ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2015, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/58 "2015-10-31T07:36:43Z")
I hope I made it clear I wasn’t being serious but nonetheless: > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So for this 40 year old crime, '70s rape is still rape. We still (rightly) prosecute and deport concentration camp guards in their 90s-the same principle applies here. > [@](#): > > which the victim no longer wants pursued The justice system isn’t about the victim’s whims, its about whether the laws were broken. > [@](#): > > and as a result of which has probably lived a considerably more comfortable life financially than she would have otherwise, The same could be said for Otto Frank. > [@](#): > > which originally carried only a $2,500 bond and brief negotiated sentence (albeit about to be renegade on) of time served in Chino, Ofc, the sentence needs to be extended as befits a civilized state especially considering his defiance of the law and his fame. > [@](#): > > you would choose to have the President of the USA employ the CIA to assassinate him in a foreign country? I suppose its in the low hundreds in my government priorities list, but certainly it’d be a far less offensive thing for the Obama administration to do then for example its current budget deal which has the potential to kick off many thousands of people from Social Security. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2015, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/59 "2015-10-31T08:21:02Z")
Isn’t prison about rehabilitation? There’s little chance of rehabilitating a 81 guy for sex offences, since he’s probably not having any sex anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2015, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614/60 "2015-10-31T14:29:35Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > Isn’t prison about rehabilitation? No, not really. At this point, Polanski is wanted for the original crime of drugging a minor and raping her. He’s also wanted for the additional crime of taking it on the lam. I don’t approve of CIA assassinations but I think it’s appropriate to use all legal methods to pursue him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-tries-again-to-extradite-roman-polanski-this-time-from-poland/710614.md?page=4)