# USA is a shitty country, stop bombing everyone **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 16, 2013, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452 "2013-12-16T10:37:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ben-wynyard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@Ben-wynyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben-wynyard)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/1 "2013-12-16T10:37:16Z")
yip you heard it/ stop bombing everyone and making up lies to justify it!! The only terrorist are you and your army. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/2 "2013-12-16T11:05:18Z")
Hmm. No debate. Cussing. BBQ Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/3 "2013-12-16T11:07:26Z")
> [@Ben-wynyard](#): > > yip you heard it/ stop bombing everyone and making up lies to justify it!! Bombing countries is like potato chips. You can’t bomb just one! ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/4 "2013-12-16T11:09:12Z")
LOL Welcome to SDMB. If you continue your illustrious degree of posting… You’ll fit in real well. Wait, no, what’s that term I was thinking of… Kind of exactly the opposite of that… ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/5 "2013-12-16T11:32:38Z")
Where is New Zealand? You know…coordinate-wise? ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/6 "2013-12-16T11:36:42Z")
Why don’t you try MAKING us stop, big guy? ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/7 "2013-12-16T11:36:44Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Where is New Zealand? You know…coordinate-wise? Isn’t it part of Australia? I think its the part with all the kangaroos. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/8 "2013-12-16T11:53:56Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Isn’t it part of Australia? I think its the part with all the kangaroos. Better bomb them both, just to be sure. To attempt to address the OP seriously for a moment: while there is certainly a valid argument to be made about the US’s less-than-discriminate past and present bombing/drone strike behavior, to say that the US are the “only” terrorists is hyperbolically stupid. There’s plenty of terroristic behavior to go around depending on how you define it, from Al Qaeda to US drone strikes to Israeli attacks on the Palestinians to the fragmented remains of the IRA and so on and so forth. The world is full of shitty people doing shitty things, often with lofty rationalizations attached. Deal with it. And learn to write coherently while you’re at it. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/9 "2013-12-16T12:37:17Z")
Well, I, for one, find the OP’s argument and well-constructed logic to be undeniable, and hereby vow to completely stop my drone attacks against unarmed civilians. Well done, good sir! ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/10 "2013-12-16T12:45:02Z")
> [@Ben-wynyard](#): > > yip you heard it/ stop bombing everyone and making up lies to justify it!! The only terrorist are you and your army. I understand your frustration, please elaborate some more. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/11 "2013-12-16T12:59:57Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > There’s plenty of terroristic behavior to go around depending on how you define it, from Al Qaeda to US drone strikes to Israeli attacks on the Palestinians to the fragmented remains of the IRA and so on and so forth. The world is full of shitty people doing shitty things, often with lofty rationalizations attached. Deal with it. > > And learn to write coherently while you’re at it. Hm with detractors like you who needs supporters?😛 ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/12 "2013-12-16T13:10:42Z")
As far as I can see, we are hardly bombing anybody right now. I cannot remember the last time we bombed Wales, or Burkina Faso, or any of several dozen other countries. ---
**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/13 "2013-12-16T13:15:12Z")
when the number of innocent victims of drone strikes reaches approx 3000, then balance will have been restored, if one considers this round of ‘warfare’ as beginning with 9/11. America is slowly disengaging from the middle east, but what the militant muslims apparently want is ‘no’ Western influence in their idyllic lands. That won’t ever happen. so long as people are plotting to kill Americans, there or here, the drone strike is the best way to prevent that from happening. Breaking up the organizations who call for ‘death to America’ would be the end to the drones, so the militants can go back to their families, to make sure their women are dominated and their girl children are not allowed to go to school. Fine, that is their culture, so be it. They can even kill their daughters if they happen to peek at a non-family man…none of my business… but plotting to kill Americans, no matter how threatened you feel you are by Western culture? We’ll keep killing you first. does that sum up the arguments for the time being? ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/14 "2013-12-16T13:16:03Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Isn’t it part of Australia? I think its the part with all the kangaroos. Nah, it’s the part with all the womp rats. No wait, sorry, that’s wombats. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/15 "2013-12-16T13:19:03Z")
> [@crucible](#): > > when the number of innocent victims of drone strikes reaches approx 3000, then balance will have been restored, if one considers this round of ‘warfare’ as beginning with 9/11. :dubious: It’s taking us longer than we thought. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/16 "2013-12-16T13:20:08Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > As far as I can see, we are hardly bombing anybody right now. I cannot remember the last time we bombed Wales, or Burkina Faso, or any of several dozen other countries. That’s because Belgium’s next. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/17 "2013-12-16T13:44:46Z")
Is it Kiwis again? Man, they is on a rampage lately. Brand new poster, already cranking out more than 26 posts a day…careful, you’ll burn out before getting to the good stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/18 "2013-12-16T13:47:22Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Is it Kiwis again? Man, they is on a rampage lately. Eh, if you were upside down all the time, you’d be angry to. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/19 "2013-12-16T13:59:48Z")
> [@grude](#): > > Hm with detractors like you who needs supporters?😛 One does one’s best to be evenhanded. Sometimes we blow up bad guys, sometimes we blow up weddings. Still, at least with drones we seem to get fewer of our own guys killed, which is better (for a given value of “better”). To sum up: war bad. Terrorism bad. Pie good. Unless it’s WAR PIE in which case it’s bad. > [@crucible](#): > > when the number of innocent victims of drone strikes reaches approx 3000, then balance will have been restored, if one considers this round of ‘warfare’ as beginning with 9/11. …but who’s counting? Of course, from their point of view we started it much earlier and we (the West) have a much higher body count. But no, that’s all bygones. History rebooted on September 11, 2001. > [@](#): > > but plotting to kill Americans, no matter how threatened you feel you are by Western culture? We’ll keep killing you first. That’s…actually quite insane. “You’re bad because you want to kill us because you feel threatened by us, therefore we’re going to kill you first because we feel threatened by you, incidentally justifying your feelings of being threatened by us.” How constructive. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/20 "2013-12-16T14:01:04Z")
We invented the Internet that you’re ranting on, buddy. 'Nuff said. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452.md?page=2)