# USA is a shitty country, stop bombing everyone

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 16, 2013, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452 "2013-12-16T10:37:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/81 "2013-12-16T23:43:17Z")

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> [@Ben-wynyard](#):
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> The only terrorist are you and your army.

I thought they spoke English in NZ.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/82 "2013-12-16T23:56:33Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> America is less charitable than most other nations as a percentage of its wealth, and as for the race issue have you been living under a rock?

That’s such a nice weasel like answer…glad you backed off with the qualifier, and basically admit you were full of shit in your statement by back pedaling. As for living under a rock or in your mom’s basement, far be it for me to judge.

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> People are still regularly harassed or worse for having dark skin.

😛 Go teach your grandma to suck eggs, white boy.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/83 "2013-12-17T00:37:08Z")

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I for one largely agree with the OP.

Nitpicking aside about whether groups like al Qaeda are 1) actually terrorists properly speaking, or something else; and 2) actually meaningfully separable from their funders and supporters in the USA.

😛

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/84 "2013-12-17T00:43:58Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Maybe we’re just having trouble parsing his distinctive New Zealand accent.

Hmm… I think less “New Zealand” and more “3rd-generation Chav”.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/85 "2013-12-17T01:58:06Z")

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> [@Ben-wynyard](#):
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> yip you heard it/ stop bombing everyone and making up lies to justify it!! The only terrorist are you and your army.

Blow me, knucklehead.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/86 "2013-12-17T02:09:23Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> :dubious: America is one of the _least_ generous cultures around. As for friendly; well, that depends on your skin color.

I sometimes agree with you **Der Trihs** , but not on this one. Canada is a wonderful country too, but somehow complete strangers in the US are typically more open and friendly than here. Maybe it’s due to the fact that we spend more time hibernating indoors, but I’ve visited maybe a third of the 50 states and have had nothing but good experiences.

And yeah, I’m white and you’d never know I was a foreigner unless you picked up on the ubiquitous “eh” or asked me to pronounce “house” or “pasta” or “Montreal” for example. So maybe I have a bit of honky bias going for me.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/87 "2013-12-17T02:24:16Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> New Zealand is Australia’s Canada.

New Zealand is Australia’s hat? 😃

> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> And, you know, not have three unrelated spelling/grammar errors in the same sentence fragment. 😉

Give him a break on “realise.” It’s the preferred spelling in British Commonwealth countries. “Realize” is the preferred spelling in the U.S.A., but both ways are correct. It’s like colour/color, centre/center, or cheque/check.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/88 "2013-12-17T02:28:06Z")

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> [@Kenm](#):
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> Those stoopid buggers wouldn’t know \*what \*to do with a block heater.

In all fairness, they wouldn’t \*need \*to.

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**Author:** ![iLemming](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90db22/32.png) [@iLemming](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iLemming)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/89 "2013-12-17T02:57:21Z")

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Hmmm… I do believe Americans are kinda dumb. Their gun, fast food and greed addictions don’t paint a pretty or egalitarian picture. Letting their economy and space endeavours kowtow to China has been quite embarrassing, too.

But, irrespective of all the nation’s foibles, I much rather the U.S. remain as the world’s [lone] superpower; in lieu of, say, the Ruskies or Chinese. I like my human rights and am willing to compromise to uphold them.

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**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/90 "2013-12-17T03:15:06Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> I cannot remember the last time we bombed Wales,

I’ve been busy, ok?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/91 "2013-12-17T03:15:52Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And Canada is America’s **Austria**.

> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> If this was true they’d have better pastry than Tim Horton.

> [@Chimera](#):
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> Dude, you had to go there.
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> You better never need to set foot in Canada. They’ll pull out this bit on you at the border and deny you entry.

(bolding and underline added for my personal amusement)

A-hem… It appears that **ElvisL1ves** mentioned AUSTRIA not Australia.

Keep Calm  
and  
Carry On

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/92 "2013-12-17T03:22:19Z")

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The OP has convinced me, yessiree. I ain’t gonna bomb no one no more.

Is it school break now in New Zealand?

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**Author:** ![stui\_magpie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stui_magpie/32/11010_2.png) [@stui\_magpie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stui_magpie)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/93 "2013-12-17T03:26:39Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Where is New Zealand? You know…coordinate-wise?

Just off the east coast of Sydney.

if you plan on taking out NZ, you may want to drop something on Sydney as well. Half the Kiwi population is there.😉

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/94 "2013-12-17T03:51:22Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Be nice to the Kiwi guys. He’s having a rough time. His favorite ewe broke up with him and has moved in with the ram just down the road.

I think it’s something else entirely. I got married in New Zealand (I don’t hold that against them) and discovered three gross violations of, I dunno, _public decency_.

[ol]  
[li]They put beets on their hamburgers. Hell, they put beets on _everything_ shudder[/li][li]Twice, TWICE, I was served pizza with sweet relish as a topping. With no warning whatsoever.[/li][li]I ate at a place that claimed to have authentic Mexican food. I think it was cooked using only pictures as a guide. The colors were all correct, but dear lord, not the flavors. Not the flavors. And see #1 about the beets again.[/li][/ol]

I’d be irritable if I lived there too.

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**Author:** ![stui\_magpie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stui_magpie/32/11010_2.png) [@stui\_magpie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stui_magpie)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/95 "2013-12-17T09:12:34Z")

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> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> I think it’s something else entirely. I got married in New Zealand (I don’t hold that against them) and discovered three gross violations of, I dunno, _public decency_.
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> [ol]  
> [\***]They put beets on their hamburgers**. Hell, they put beets on _everything_ shudder  
> [li]Twice, TWICE, I was served pizza with sweet relish as a topping. With no warning whatsoever.[/li][li]I ate at a place that claimed to have authentic Mexican food. I think it was cooked using only pictures as a guide. The colors were all correct, but dear lord, not the flavors. Not the flavors. And see #1 about the beets again.[/li][/ol]
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> I’d be irritable if I lived there too.

beetroot on Burgers is way more civilised than those fucking pickle slices (shudder)

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/96 "2013-12-17T09:46:20Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> New Zealand is Australia’s hat? 😃
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> Give him a break on “realise.” It’s the preferred spelling in British Commonwealth countries. “Realize” is the preferred spelling in the U.S.A., but both ways are correct. It’s like colour/color, centre/center, or cheque/check.

As I point out from time to time, “realize” is the British spelling _for the classically educated_, and this was a plot point in an episode of _Morse_ - because the Inspector noted that someone who was really an Oxford don would never have spelled it “realise”.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/97 "2013-12-17T12:56:49Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> (bolding and underline added for my personal amusement)
> 
> A-hem… It appears that **ElvisL1ves** mentioned AUSTRIA not Australia.

Um, yes - and [Austria](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_cuisine) is famous for its pastry.

_“Austrian cakes and pastries are a well-known feature of its cuisine. Perhaps the most famous is the Sachertorte, a chocolate cake with apricot jam filling, traditionally eaten with whipped cream. Among the cakes with the longest tradition is the Linzer torte. Other favourites include the caramel-flavoured Dobostorte and the delicately layered Esterhazy Torte, named in honor of Prince Esterházy (both originating from Hungary during the Austro-Hungarian empire), as well as a number of cakes made with fresh fruit and cream. Punschkrapfen is a classical Austrian pastry, a cake filled with cake crumbs, nougat chocolate, apricot jam and then soaked with rum.”_

If you’re suggesting _Australia_ has better pastry there’s gonna be a horde of pissed-off Viennese in here any second now. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/98 "2013-12-17T13:00:53Z")

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> [@armedmonkey](#):
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> [Bullshit](http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/sep/08/charitable-giving-country)

Guess, he’s referring to [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governments_by_development_aid#Official_Development_Assistance_by_country_as_a_percentage_of_Gross_National_Income_in_2012_.28April_2013.29)

Particularly look at Luxembourg population 537.853 giving $0.43billion vs USA 317.281.000 $30.46billion.

If Luxembourg would have the same population as the USA, they would give $253billion.

This basically shows, that the teeming millions of the USA give a lot, but the individual not so much as other places.

However, it’s still better than Greece; those are some seriously stingy buggers :eek:

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/99 "2013-12-17T14:07:24Z")

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> [@XT](#):
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> What do you base this on? :dubious:

**Der Trihs** lives there, that’s enough hate as a billion normal people.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-is-a-shitty-country-stop-bombing-everyone/676452/100 "2013-12-17T14:13:30Z")

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> [@Doughbag](#):
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> Guess, he’s referring to [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governments_by_development_aid#Official_Development_Assistance_by_country_as_a_percentage_of_Gross_National_Income_in_2012_.28April_2013.29)
> 
> Particularly look at Luxembourg population 537.853 giving $0.43billion vs USA 317.281.000 $30.46billion.
> 
> If Luxembourg would have the same population as the USA, they would give $253billion.
> 
> This basically shows, that the teeming millions of the USA give a lot, but the individual not so much as other places.
> 
> However, it’s still better than Greece; those are some seriously stingy buggers :eek:

But that only shows governmental giving, not charitable donations by individuals. Just because the Luxembourg government is giving away tax money doesn’t necessarily make the populace charitable.

It also explains the Greeks, busy using tax dollars to not lose their country to a Russian oil magnate or something…

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