# USA really too different from English-speaking world to have similar policies? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 27, 2009, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-really-too-different-from-english-speaking-world-to-have-similar-policies/483193 "2009-01-27T06:04:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-really-too-different-from-english-speaking-world-to-have-similar-policies/483193/381 "2009-02-07T06:50:52Z")
JFTR, I totally disagree with Markxxx: > [@](#): > > I have talked to serveral people who have lived in the UK, Aussie and NZ and they all agree, in terms of most things the socialized medicine is better there for all routine things. Office visits, routine surgery, drugs. But when it comes to complex things like transplants, advanced cancer or surgeries, the United States totally comes out ahead. In fact, I’m not sure where to start disagreeing with this, because it’s so utterly wrong. The criticisms I’ve heard are for mid-range care - disc surgery waiting lists, for example (though even that’s getting better). Regarding cancer and other really serious, definitely life-threatening illnesses? I’ve never heard ANY bad stuff at all. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-really-too-different-from-english-speaking-world-to-have-similar-policies/483193/382 "2009-02-07T18:05:26Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Jesus merciful fuck, this thread is still going on? > > Curlcoat has no intention of actually thinking. She’s a fucking automation, with as much going on under her top hat as the animatronic Lincoln at Disney Land.\* > > Has she conceded a single argument yet? Has she actually looked at anyone’s data or links and actually learned a single thing? She lives in an ignorance bubble capable of deflecting any logic or factual attack. > > \*I’ve never been, so I don’t know if he’s actually wearing the hat. **QFT** Jesus fuck people…stop wasting your time. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result…and that’s what a few people in here seem to be doing with thinking these two will ever get it. They won’t. Either because they really don’t know shit or they’re intentionally trying to stir people up. Both **Curlcoat** and **brazil** have NO intention of giving up their ways of non factual thinking. All they want to do is keep this topic going on so they can either: 1. Live in their sorry ignorance or 2. Keep to their trolling ways. Either way, I don’t understand why people are still trying to get through to them. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO YOU. THEY HAVE BOTH SHOWN THIS BEFORE IN OTHER TRAINWRECK PIT THREADS THAT WERE ABOUT THEM. You’re reasonable, after all. They aren’t. Just refuse to debate with them and eventually they’ll either go away or step it up a notch and probably get banned. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-really-too-different-from-english-speaking-world-to-have-similar-policies/483193/383 "2009-02-07T18:15:11Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Both **Curlcoat** and **brazil** have NO intention of giving up their ways of non factual thinking. All they want to do is keep this topic going on so they can either: > > 1. Live in their sorry ignorance or > 2. Keep to their trolling ways. I don’t know about **Curlcoat** , but you are wrong about me. I generally consider other peoples’ arguments and evidence in good faith; admit it when I am wrong; and thank other people when they so correct me. Note also that I haven’t posted in this thread in 3 or 4 days. The discussion has wandered away from the specific issues I have been discussing. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-really-too-different-from-english-speaking-world-to-have-similar-policies/483193/384 "2009-02-08T06:31:24Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Both **Curlcoat** and **brazil** have NO intention of giving up their ways of non factual thinking. All they want to do is keep this topic going on so they can either: > > 1. Live in their sorry ignorance or > 2. Keep to their trolling ways. > > Either way, I don’t understand why people are still trying to get through to them. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO YOU. > THEY HAVE BOTH SHOWN THIS BEFORE IN OTHER TRAINWRECK PIT THREADS THAT WERE ABOUT THEM. > You’re reasonable, after all. They aren’t. Just refuse to debate with them and eventually they’ll either go away or step it up a notch and probably get banned. Ya know, this is really amazing. I disagree with your interpretation of facts, so therefore I must be a troll and should be banned. Particularly since if you had an ounce of brains you would see that my posts are based on those precious facts and not on emotions, as so many that you agree with are using as bases of their opinions. And you think I don’t listen… The really funny part of this is over in the digital TV thread - need any more proof that the US government cannot efficiently take care of even the most simple projects? BTW, as far as I know there has only been one pit thread devoted to me. Seems like pretty much everyone gets one eventually, so I’m not sure what that means to you. I suppose I could pit you for being an overly emotional twit, but what would that accomplish? ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-really-too-different-from-english-speaking-world-to-have-similar-policies/483193/385 "2009-02-08T08:12:53Z")
In what way is an attempt to provide upgrade technology to an unknown number of persons who lack cable television & actually care enough to upgrade but not enough to buy a new TV a “most simple project”? ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-really-too-different-from-english-speaking-world-to-have-similar-policies/483193/386 "2009-02-09T06:38:54Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > In what way is an attempt to provide upgrade technology to an unknown number of persons who lack cable television & actually care enough to upgrade but not enough to buy a new TV a “most simple project”? Well, for one thing it’s a one off project, not something that is supposed to last for decades. Next, it was just a matter of printing out coupons and getting them to those who asked for them - heck of a lot easier than creating and monitoring a national health care system. Next, again, you have used my post to fit your preconceived ideas - I didn’t say that the TV fiasco was “a most simple project”. However, compared to trying to put a UHC in here, getting converter box coupons in the mail is much simpler. Yet the government messed it up. I am not surprised at that, but I _am_ surprised at how many people here just blindly assume, in the face of history, that the government would be able to take on a huge project without a bunch of waste. ---
**Author:** ![slaphead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@slaphead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slaphead)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-really-too-different-from-english-speaking-world-to-have-similar-policies/483193/387 "2009-02-15T18:43:57Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > That is what Medicaid is for. Heh. I can’t believe this thread was allowed to die without someone picking this up. This is pure comedy genius at work. In Curlcoat’s universe it’s not necessary for the hardworking taxpayers of the US to pay for medical care for the poor, because it’s all taken care of by Medicaid, which receives it’s funding from… somewhere else. Buahahahaha! ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-really-too-different-from-english-speaking-world-to-have-similar-policies/483193/388 "2009-02-17T02:12:00Z")
> [@slaphead](#): > > Heh. I can’t believe this thread was allowed to die without someone picking this up. This is pure comedy genius at work. In Curlcoat’s universe it’s not necessary for the hardworking taxpayers of the US to pay for medical care for the poor, because it’s all taken care of by Medicaid, which receives it’s funding from… somewhere else. Buahahahaha! Yer an idiot. Universal healthcare would cover _far_ more people than what I am paying Medicaid to cover. How people cannot understand why universal healthcare would cost the responsible taxpayer so much more continues to amaze me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-really-too-different-from-english-speaking-world-to-have-similar-policies/483193.md?page=19)