JFTR, I totally disagree with Markxxx:
In fact, I’m not sure where to start disagreeing with this, because it’s so utterly wrong. The criticisms I’ve heard are for mid-range care - disc surgery waiting lists, for example (though even that’s getting better). Regarding cancer and other really serious, definitely life-threatening illnesses? I’ve never heard ANY bad stuff at all.
QFT
Jesus fuck people…stop wasting your time.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result…and that’s what a few people in here seem to be doing with thinking these two will ever get it. They won’t. Either because they really don’t know shit or they’re intentionally trying to stir people up.
Both Curlcoat and brazil have NO intention of giving up their ways of non factual thinking. All they want to do is keep this topic going on so they can either:
Either way, I don’t understand why people are still trying to get through to them. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO YOU.
THEY HAVE BOTH SHOWN THIS BEFORE IN OTHER TRAINWRECK PIT THREADS THAT WERE ABOUT THEM.
You’re reasonable, after all. They aren’t. Just refuse to debate with them and eventually they’ll either go away or step it up a notch and probably get banned.
I don’t know about Curlcoat, but you are wrong about me. I generally consider other peoples’ arguments and evidence in good faith; admit it when I am wrong; and thank other people when they so correct me.
Note also that I haven’t posted in this thread in 3 or 4 days. The discussion has wandered away from the specific issues I have been discussing.
Ya know, this is really amazing. I disagree with your interpretation of facts, so therefore I must be a troll and should be banned. Particularly since if you had an ounce of brains you would see that my posts are based on those precious facts and not on emotions, as so many that you agree with are using as bases of their opinions. And you think I don’t listen…
The really funny part of this is over in the digital TV thread - need any more proof that the US government cannot efficiently take care of even the most simple projects?
BTW, as far as I know there has only been one pit thread devoted to me. Seems like pretty much everyone gets one eventually, so I’m not sure what that means to you. I suppose I could pit you for being an overly emotional twit, but what would that accomplish?
In what way is an attempt to provide upgrade technology to an unknown number of persons who lack cable television & actually care enough to upgrade but not enough to buy a new TV a “most simple project”?
Well, for one thing it’s a one off project, not something that is supposed to last for decades. Next, it was just a matter of printing out coupons and getting them to those who asked for them - heck of a lot easier than creating and monitoring a national health care system. Next, again, you have used my post to fit your preconceived ideas - I didn’t say that the TV fiasco was “a most simple project”. However, compared to trying to put a UHC in here, getting converter box coupons in the mail is much simpler. Yet the government messed it up. I am not surprised at that, but I am surprised at how many people here just blindly assume, in the face of history, that the government would be able to take on a huge project without a bunch of waste.
Heh. I can’t believe this thread was allowed to die without someone picking this up. This is pure comedy genius at work. In Curlcoat’s universe it’s not necessary for the hardworking taxpayers of the US to pay for medical care for the poor, because it’s all taken care of by Medicaid, which receives it’s funding from… somewhere else. Buahahahaha!
Yer an idiot. Universal healthcare would cover far more people than what I am paying Medicaid to cover.
How people cannot understand why universal healthcare would cost the responsible taxpayer so much more continues to amaze me.