# USA vs England - May 28 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 26, 2005, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587 "2005-05-26T13:08:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/21 "2005-05-27T13:12:43Z")
From the squad, the following England team: James, Campbell, \*Brown[/]i, Neville G, Cole A, Beckham, _Cole J_, Wright-Phillips, _Hargreaves_, Owen, _Defoe/Johnson_ …would be not far off full strength (Gerrard, Ferdinand, Rooney and Lampard being ideally preferred to the italicised above). Not that these post-season friendlies matter a hoot, really. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/22 "2005-05-27T14:30:26Z")
> [@Tuco](#): > > I doubt it’ll be on English terrestrial TV, it’ll probably be pay-per-view as the American FA (or whatever the American football association is called) will decide who to sell the TV rights to. Where and when will it be broadcast in the U.S.? ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/23 "2005-05-27T14:46:03Z")
> [@Johnny L.A.](#): > > Where and when will it be broadcast in the U.S.? It’ll be on ESPN or ESPN2 live (I programmed the DVR yesterday just in case), maybe about 11-12 your time. Check local listings for details, yada yada. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/24 "2005-05-27T14:47:46Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > It’ll be on ESPN or ESPN2 live (I programmed the DVR yesterday just in case), maybe about 11-12 your time. Check local listings for details, yada yada. Okay, more specifically: Live on ESPN and Telemundo on Saturday, May 28 at: 3 pm Eastern 2 pm Central (game is played in Chicago) 1 pm Mountain Noon Pacific ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Freakazoid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/58f4c7/32.png) [@Mr\_Freakazoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Freakazoid)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/25 "2005-05-27T15:33:04Z")
Ah, crap. **Eddie Johnson** is out! ☹ At least **John O’Brien** is back. And **McBride** and **Landon** could create some problems. Should be a great game! Prediction: 3-2 States, on a late header by McBride. 😉 _[ducks, runs away]_ ---
**Author:** ![Ithaka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Ithaka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ithaka)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/26 "2005-05-27T15:35:42Z")
> [@Mr Freakazoid](#): > > Prediction: 3-2 States, on a late header by McBride. 😉 Dream on, mate. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/27 "2005-05-27T15:51:37Z")
> [@Mr Freakazoid](#): > > Ah, crap. **Eddie Johnson** is out! ☹ At least **John O’Brien** is back. And > **McBride** and **Landon** could create some problems. > > Should be a great game! > > Prediction: 3-2 States, on a late header by McBride. 😉 > > _[ducks, runs away]_ When I referred to JOB in that early post that is **J** ohn **O** ’ **B** rien. Doesn’t look good for him to play. Looking more and more like we’ll be fielding a B side as well. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/28 "2005-05-27T15:52:27Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > Okay, so Posh would rather shop in NYC than Chicago. Fair play. Mwahahahaha! ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/29 "2005-05-27T20:27:49Z")
Per [url"[http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4582373.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4582373.stm)"]BBC News, this is the England starting eleven: James, G Johnson, Brown, Campbell, A Cole, J Cole, Jenas, Carrick, Richardson, Crouch, A Johnson. That’s certainly not the best team that England can field, but it’s not a bad side. It will be interesting to see how they perform. At this point I’d predict England 3-1. The article also mentions that both Beckham and Owen are joining up with the team in New Jersey. Sol Campbell will be the captain in Chicago. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/30 "2005-05-27T20:30:06Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > Per [BBC News](http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4582373.stm), this is the England starting eleven: > > James, G Johnson, Brown, Campbell, A Cole, J Cole, Jenas, Carrick, Richardson, Crouch, A Johnson. > > That’s certainly not the best team that England can field, but it’s not a bad side. It will be interesting to see how they perform. At this point I’d predict England 3-1. > > The article also mentions that both Beckham and Owen are joining up with the team in New Jersey. Sol Campbell will be the captain in Chicago. :smack: nice coding. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2005, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/31 "2005-05-27T20:50:36Z")
I have a corporate box for this match though I have zero interest in the game. Many a drink will probably help but otherwise I couldn’t give a toss. Andy Johnson, at best, will be a middling Premiership player. ---
**Author:** ![Tuco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tuco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuco)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/32 "2005-05-28T09:54:58Z")
For the British Dopers, there is a preview of the game at 2.55 on BBC1, the match is on Sky Sports 1 at 7.30 (kick-off 8.05) then BBC1 are showing highlights at 11.40. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/33 "2005-05-28T15:53:35Z")
Here are a couple of articles out on the game: [American](http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/3643702) (Associated Press) [English](http://soccernet.espn.go.com/feature?id=334332&cc=5901) (Soccernet) ---
**Author:** ![mittu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@mittu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mittu)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/34 "2005-05-29T08:29:30Z")
Only saw the second half, didn’t seem like a very exciting game but at least the result was right 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/35 "2005-05-29T15:21:30Z")
> [@mittu](#): > > Only saw the second half, didn’t seem like a very exciting game but at least the result was right 😉 No, the result was off by one. It’s sad when you want the bad guys to score an extra goal to get your prediction correct, innit? I thought the match had it’s moments, we obviously helped make Richardson look pretty good. Also now I’m starting to understand the nickname “Calamity James”. ---
**Author:** ![mittu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@mittu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mittu)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2005, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/36 "2005-05-29T18:29:20Z")
Many hairs have been turned grey atop the heads of people watching David James coming for a cross. He isn’t as bad as he used to be but I would still put Robinson in ahead of him everytime, but then I may be biased as a Spurs fan. ---
**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2005, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/37 "2005-05-30T02:37:42Z")
So who won? ---
**Author:** ![Antonius\_Block](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/51bf81/32.png) [@Antonius\_Block](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antonius_Block)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2005, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/38 "2005-05-30T03:39:49Z")
[England bt USA 2-1](http://www.ussoccer.com/). ---
**Author:** ![Tuco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tuco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuco)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2005, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/39 "2005-05-30T11:40:59Z")
> [@mittu](#): > > Many hairs have been turned grey atop the heads of people watching David James coming for a cross. He isn’t as bad as he used to be but I would still put Robinson in ahead of him everytime, but then I may be biased as a Spurs fan. I’m surprised SGE didn’t use Bobby Green as it was only a friendly. ---
**Author:** ![Ithaka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Ithaka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ithaka)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587/40 "2005-05-31T08:55:19Z")
> [@Lochdale](#): > > Andy Johnson, at best, will be a middling Premiership player. This would be the same Andy Johnson who was the 2nd best scorer in the Premiership whilst playing for a side that got relegated? You better tell all the clubs that are trying to buy him that they’re wasting their time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/usa-vs-england-may-28/305587.md?page=3)