# Use some imagination, fluiddruid (rather polite)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 14, 2006, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396 "2006-02-14T02:51:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/41 "2006-02-14T05:12:31Z")

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> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> Do your balls smell good then?

If men knew that, we’d never leave the house. Seriously, if you could sniff your nuts (Uh-oh, getting into crotch-sniffing here) would you really need more than the basics in life?

> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> The female genitalia is just as susceptible to stinking.

That’s why God created our brains to invent the use of soap. Really. It can be cleaned. And if not? A little musk never killed anyone. Plus, it gives you an opportunity to shower or bathe together. Have you ever gotten a blowjob before scrubbing your ass in the shower? You smell much worse after a healthy shit than she does after 2 minutes of ice skating.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/42 "2006-02-14T05:13:31Z")

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> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> How immature.
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> You don’t believe you can do something without talking about it, I knew a lot of people like that when I was 15, too.

What, I thought you were 15 right now.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/43 "2006-02-14T05:18:15Z")

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> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> Furthermore Aes, this is a society of sorts. A pseudo-society.

Oh, you’re pseudo alright.

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> When in society it’s generally considered appropriate not to talk about stuff when it obviously makes someone uncomfortable.

Really? Your political views make me uncomfortable. It puts ants in my pants to think that someone could really be as irrationally right wing and stupid as you are. But I would never tell you to shut the fuck up. Actually, I would, but I would never expect you to do so.

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> In the workplace for example talking about stuff like this and refusing to stop when people tell you it makes them uncomfortable is sexual harassment.

This isn’t the workplace (though it is most often accessed at the workplace, haw). It’s where we come to blab about anything we fuckin’ wanna. It sounds like you are the one uncomfortable with that arrangement.

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> Plus, even if it wasn’t sexual harassment, just like in real life it’s only polite to shut up about something that the people around you have told you makes them uncomfortable.

OK, please never verbally support Bush on the SDMB again. Your wingnut retardation makes me nauseous.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/44 "2006-02-14T05:22:20Z")

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> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> Plus, even if it wasn’t sexual harassment, just like in real life it’s only polite to shut up about something that the people around you have told you makes them uncomfortable.

That’s it! Look, I agree with you on a bunch of stuff. You’re going too far here. The thread being discussed here is in no way any more offensive or discomforting than half the other threads we see in any other forum.

Sexual harassment?!? From that thread?!? You’re taking this way too far. And let’s take this a step further.

Jennifer Beals in _Flashdance_ while she was dancing. She was sweaty. Did you retch during that? How about any stripper? They build a film of “glow”. You’re turned off by them? You’ve never been excited over a woman doing aerobics?

I feel uncomfortable with you judging me. Shut up.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/45 "2006-02-14T05:23:31Z")

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**duffer** and I are buds forever now. The reason is that men, despite their political differences, can get along if they understand pussy. Pussy is what matters in life.

Or sausage, if you’re gay.

But prudes like **Marty** , the asexual nitwit pleasure-destroyers, are what make life suck. And not in a going-down suck-me sort of way, but just a hair-clogged drain sort of sucking way. And that ain’t good.

Bush (fine name) would have my support if I thought he truly loved pussy. But I don’t believe it. Nor do I think Kerry really dug muff. Neither man was authentic.

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**Author:** ![yBeayf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e274bd/32.png) [@yBeayf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yBeayf)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/46 "2006-02-14T05:32:34Z")

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> C’mon, you know you love it too.

I don’t, actually. (And yes, I’ve been up close and personal with another person’s nether regions. Not female, though.) See previous posts of mine about my lack of interest in sex.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/47 "2006-02-14T05:43:04Z")

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> [@yBeayf](#):
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> I don’t, actually. (And yes, I’ve been up close and personal with another person’s nether regions. Not female, though.) See previous posts of mine about my lack of interest in sex.

Sorry, no interest.

But your lack of interest is making me _very_ uncomfortable!

\<I’m joking.\>

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/48 "2006-02-14T05:57:24Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> The word is FLOUTING, dumbfuck. Why don’t you get a good dictionary? Your ignorance and prudishness combined with make it the best pr0n you’ve ever read.

Funny, one definition of flaunting I see in my dictionary is: “To show contempt for, scorn.”

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/49 "2006-02-14T05:59:52Z")

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Anyways Aes, considering you’ve resorted to ad homs, have fun, I’m done with your little display in this thread.

For the record though, chemically speaking sweat isn’t much different from urine. I don’t like the smell of urine and I don’t like the smell of sweat. Obviously everyone has different tastes in life, but to answer your general inquiries definitively: no, I don’t like the smell of crotch be it female or male. And also no, I’ve never had someone suck my dick unless I was clean first, I have more respect for people than you do, I guess. Which is obvious since you’ve managed to turn this pitting of a mod’s actions into yet another penthouse thread.

If you can’t go 5 seconds without introducing your lockerroom sexual conversations here on the SDMB I don’t know how you exist in society at large. It’s sad the idea of civility has been paved over in favor of anything-goes crassness.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/50 "2006-02-14T06:03:32Z")

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> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> Funny, one definition of flaunting I see in my dictionary is: “To show contempt for, scorn.”

From [www.m-w.com](http://www.m-w.com):

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> Although transitive sense 2 of flaunt undoubtedly arose from confusion with flout, the contexts in which it appears cannot be called substandard \<meting out punishment to the occasional mavericks who operate rigged games, tolerate rowdyism, or otherwise flaunt the law – Oscar Lewis\> \<observed with horror the flaunting of their authority in the suburbs, where men… put up buildings that had no place at all in a Christian commonwealth – Marchette Chute\> \<in our profession…very rarely do we publicly chastise a colleague who has flaunted our most basic principles – R. T. Blackburn, AAUP Bull.\>. If you use it, however, you should be aware that many people will consider it a mistake. Use of flout in the sense of flaunt 1 is found occasionally \<“The proper pronunciation,” the blonde said, flouting her refined upbringing, “is pree feeks” – Mike Royko\>.

Yep, be aware that I consider you a fucking moron.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/51 "2006-02-14T06:04:14Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> That’s it! Look, I agree with you on a bunch of stuff. You’re going too far here. The thread being discussed here is in no way any more offensive or discomforting than half the other threads we see in any other forum.

The mods disagree.

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> Sexual harassment?!? From that thread?!? You’re taking this way too far. And let’s take this a step further.

I said, “if this was done in the workplace” this obviously _isn’t the workplace._

Some people get so excited at the chance to slam an opponent’s argument that they will often do so even when the argument was never made in the first place.

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> Jennifer Beals in _Flashdance_ while she was dancing. She was sweaty. Did you retch during that? How about any stripper? They build a film of “glow”. You’re turned off by them? You’ve never been excited over a woman doing aerobics?

Never seen Flashdance and I don’t go to strip clubs or find strippers or stipping particularly appealing. I do find women performing acts of aerobics to be appealing sometimes. Hell, people work up a sweat during sex, I don’t have a problem with sweat or touching or even having sex with a sweaty person, I just don’t think the odor of sweat, especially sweat that’s been resting in a crouch for awhile is one that is worthy of masturbatory fantasy posts on the SDMB.

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> I feel uncomfortable with you judging me. Shut up.

You’re a stupid fucktard, shut up.

There, the circle of innanity and idiocy is complete.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/52 "2006-02-14T06:08:23Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> I disagree with the ruling. Thanks.

Giddily sharing the thrill of a spontaneous fantasy only tangentially related to sports didn’t belong in Cafe Society. Sure, it might have passed the MPSIMS-o-meter (I’ll leave it up to those moderators if you want to re-open a thread there). Since it’s moderator discretion to close or move a thread, I decided to close it since it was definitely on the sexual fantasies/Penthouse Forum side.

Thanks to **Otto** for citing.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/53 "2006-02-14T06:09:16Z")

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> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> Some people get so excited at the chance to slam an opponent’s argument that they will often do so even when the argument was never made in the first place.

I agree–you never made an argument.

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> […]I just don’t think the odor of sweat, especially sweat that’s been resting in a crouch for awhile is one that is worthy of masturbatory fantasy posts on the SDMB.

Others interpolated the sweat, I was just into the general crotchdom.

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> There, the circle of innanity and idiocy is complete.

Dude, you completed that circuit before the Internet was even invented.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/54 "2006-02-14T06:11:30Z")

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> [@fluiddruid](#):
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> Giddily sharing the thrill of a spontaneous fantasy only tangentially related to sports didn’t belong in Cafe Society. Sure, it might have passed the MPSIMS-o-meter (I’ll leave it up to those moderators if you want to re-open a thread there). Since it’s moderator discretion to close or move a thread, I decided to close it since it was definitely on the sexual fantasies/Penthouse Forum side.

Yeah, no argument about the closing, based on the stated policy.

Too bad we can’t have a poster-vs-mod battle, although **Marty** has volunteered as this thread’s antagonist and whipping boy.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/55 "2006-02-14T06:12:13Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> From [www.m-w.com](http://www.m-w.com):Yep, be aware that I consider you a fucking moron.

Open up any dictionary and there are definitions of flounting that fit my useage just fine.

Lots of words change over time, sometimes due to misuse by the general public, that doesn’t change the fact that the usage changed over time.

The dictionary has proven me right, any further discussion on this by you will be wasted on your part as I’m not going to read arguments from someone who has been disproven by their own source material.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/56 "2006-02-14T06:13:23Z")

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\*flaunting

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/57 "2006-02-14T06:38:27Z")

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> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> Open up any dictionary and there are definitions of [flaunting] that fit my useage just fine.

True enough, but most of them also consider the usage incorrect, particularly since there’s a perfectly good, but similar-sounding, word that actually does have the intended meaning. It’s clear that the popular misuse of the word _flaunt_ is precisely because of its similarity to the proper word, _flout_, in fact.

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**Author:** ![yBeayf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e274bd/32.png) [@yBeayf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yBeayf)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/58 "2006-02-14T06:40:07Z")

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> It’s clear that the popular misuse of the word flaunt is precisely because of its similarity to the proper word, flout, in fact.

We should, therefore, combine the two into “flount”, and allow the exact meaning to be determined by context.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/59 "2006-02-14T06:42:13Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> True enough, but most of them also consider the usage incorrect, particularly since there’s a perfectly good, but similar-sounding, word that actually does have the intended meaning. It’s clear that the popular misuse of the word _flaunt_ is precisely because of its similarity to the proper word, _flout_, in fact.

Nonetheless, trying to say using the word flaunt like I did was incorrect is akin to saying using the word ain’t is incorrect. It’s purely a “mistake” in the eyes of those who erroneously believe such things can clearly be called correct/incorrect in the English language.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/use-some-imagination-fluiddruid-rather-polite/344396/60 "2006-02-14T06:49:33Z")

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> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> Nonetheless, trying to say using the word flaunt like I did was incorrect is akin to saying using the word ain’t is incorrect. It’s purely a “mistake” in the eyes of those who erroneously believe such things can clearly be called correct/incorrect in the English language.

If it wasn’t obvious that people were using _flaunt_ because they were confusing it with _flout_, I’d agree with you. But, in this case, I can’t agree; using _flaunt_ for _flout_ is incorrect in the same way that using _moose_ when you meant _mouse_ would be.

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