# Used car with a mp3 player jack mystery

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/used-car-with-a-mp3-player-jack-mystery/751948>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [April 11, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/used-car-with-a-mp3-player-jack-mystery/751948 "2016-04-11T23:52:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/used-car-with-a-mp3-player-jack-mystery/751948/21 "2016-04-12T20:04:45Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> It might be a 3.5 mm plug after all. They come in surprisingly variable sizes; the OEM jack in the dashboard of my last Hyundai would accept any 3.5 mm plug but none of them fit quite right and I would only get mono audio output unless the plug was seated “just so.”

Are you sure it wasn’t expecting a three-stripe/4-conductor plug, the ones where the last one is used for a microphone or inline controls? [Phone connector (audio) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_connector_(audio)#/media/File:3.5mm.jpg)

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/used-car-with-a-mp3-player-jack-mystery/751948/22 "2016-04-12T20:26:31Z")

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> [@SpyOne](#):
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> My LG cell phone has a socket for an earpiece with speaker and mic that takes a plug significantly smaller than the one used by iphones.
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> I have seen devices that took power through a plug that looked a lot like a earphone plug, but smaller.
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> There are any number of things that plug might be. Before I plugged it into anything valuable, I’d want to crawl under the dashboard and see where the wires go at least.

Yeah, I’m guessing some sort of hands-free set up for the previous owner’s cell phone.

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**Author:** ![Isilder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@Isilder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isilder)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/used-car-with-a-mp3-player-jack-mystery/751948/23 "2016-04-13T10:41:03Z")

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OP could try putting a signal onto the pins…

see the wiki entry for TRS … Tip ring shield… connectors for contact assignments.

If it is for audio input, AUX , the stereo system has a way to select it ? If you can’t select it what use is it ?  
( It could be for a microphone for handsfree alternatively.)

And if it is for aux input, perpahs the tip can be reduced in size… or just replace it with a standard 3.5mm TRS

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/used-car-with-a-mp3-player-jack-mystery/751948/24 "2016-04-13T12:47:17Z")

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Check it with a voltmeter.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/used-car-with-a-mp3-player-jack-mystery/751948/25 "2016-04-13T13:22:10Z")

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> [@Reply](#):
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> Are you sure it wasn’t expecting a three-stripe/4-conductor plug, the ones where the last one is used for a microphone or inline controls? [Phone connector (audio) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_connector_(audio)#/media/File:3.5mm.jpg)

Oh, maybe. I didn’t know that was a thing.

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2016, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/used-car-with-a-mp3-player-jack-mystery/751948/26 "2016-04-13T13:56:32Z")

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So this car stereo has a short cable hanging off of it, with something that looks like a 3.5mm stereo plug? And are you saying it’s too small to be a 3.5mm plug (i.e. it sits loose in a 3.5mm jack), but too large to fit into a 2.5mm jack?

Does it have the same design as a 3.5mm plug, i.e. looks like a metal rod with 2 plastic insulator rings along its length?

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