# User Jasmine’s opinions regarding the US system of jurisprudence

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 27, 2025, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214 "2025-03-27T18:10:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/101 "2025-03-28T22:27:31Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> In my head its related.

But you have not been responding to the OP. Just what you wish it were about. As I wrote back in post #6, and has been reiterated by several posters.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/102 "2025-03-28T22:50:09Z")

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I thought we can say anything in the pit.

That doesn’t apply to me?

I see.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/103 "2025-03-28T22:52:06Z")

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No said you were breaking a rule. You always revert to this exact same dumbfuckery.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/104 "2025-03-28T23:01:52Z")

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I’m so happy ya’ll know me so well.

Look. I read the other thread.  
I read the OP as complaining about Jasmines post. And going into some legalese about how its wrong to presume he’s gulity, without his fair showing in court.

I believe he should have that. I do.  
And I said so in my first post.  
It’s ok if in my head, sitting on my bed, I think the man is headed to life without parole.  
This is what it looks like.

Of course I don’t know the intricacies of the case. I think the video will be damning.  
It is fine if I think this. I am human, with all my faults, after all.

Eh. I am a bit judgy, sometimes.  
I apologize for that.  
I DO NOT ACT on my judginess. I just think it.

And, yes dear Dopers I’ve made judgments on all you guys. Nothing alarming. Just little things I notice.  
On the whole I find you a good bunch of folks.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/105 "2025-03-28T23:10:59Z")

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Umm…more like post 16.

It almost like you don’t know where you post.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/106 "2025-03-29T01:29:49Z")

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Citing post numbers in Discourse is useless. What’s post #16 to one person might not be to another person. When you have people on ignore, their posts don’t show up in the post count. So don’t use that as a way to express where to find a post.

Just link to the post in question.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/107 "2025-03-29T01:42:37Z")

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Hey, what happened to the Smapti show? This one feels like a rerun.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/108 "2025-03-29T01:45:27Z")

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Yeah. I kinda know this. 🙃

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/109 "2025-03-29T01:53:08Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> But, dang it. I like Jasmine. I hate how people are just trashed in the pit for thinking differently.

If by “thinking differently”, you mean expressing the view that someone accused of a crime should be subject to summary judgment without the benefit of legal defense and decision by a jury of peers, that is a view that rightfully deserves to be ‘trashed’.

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> This is one of those pit threads that are sneaky snakes. Twisting around peoples thoughts and ideas.
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> And, the clever picking out tiny snippets of a persons whole post, to make it fit your narrative is evil.

I quoted @Jasmine’s quote in the original post (and copied verbatim from the [previous thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/luigi-murder-case-15-000-documents/1016091/41) verbatim without truncation or editing. And to be clear, while I did call out that specific poster this was not intended to be a general criticism of her character but to specifically address the view expressed in that post and shared by others. Had I put more thought into it I would have made it a non-poster-specific o.p. but it was cut & pasted from the original thread after the moderator (correctly) adjudicated that opinions about the application of summary judgment was not an appropriate discussion for the **Factual Questions** forum. @Jasmine did, as noted above, apologize for her off-the-cuff remarks, and you’ll note that I haven’t made any further issue of her statement, and to the extent that acknowledgement of her retraction need be made, I’ll note she did so immediately and with succinct grace after the moderator’s note, so I don’t think anything more needs to be made of her views.

You, on the other hand, have continued to protest and prostrate yourself as a victim being made the subject of criticism even as you hog the spotlight at every single opportunity. So if attention isn’t what you actually want, maybe just give it a rest.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/110 "2025-03-29T02:00:03Z")

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Lotta words to just tell me to shut-up.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/111 "2025-03-29T02:13:42Z")

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Well, just telling you to shut up didn’t seem to work, did it?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/112 "2025-03-29T03:04:43Z")

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No no no. You’re not aloud to say “shut up”. I got modded on it.  
See the double back sneakiness?

Kind of a sucker punch to say “shut up” in under 100 crossword clue words. (For…IDK? Effect?).  
I said it in two words. Yet that’s wrong.

And, no I’m not nearly ready to shut up today. Feeling kinda chipper.  
If you don’t want to afford me your attention, well…just don’t do it.

I’ll be just fine.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/113 "2025-03-29T03:19:19Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> No no no. You’re not aloud to say “shut up”. I got modded on it.  
> See the double back sneakiness?

Where did you get modded on it?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/114 "2025-03-29T03:37:07Z")

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I’m not sure. But I said twice. Once I meant the other way, as in “Shut up! This is unbelievable”  
No matter someone flagged me on the one where I meant really, like shut-up.  
Not STFU. I typed “shut up”  
And I got dinged on it because I must be a serial “shut-up-erer” because egads! I said it twice! Bad, beck.

I’m sure it was brought in this very thread.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/115 "2025-03-29T03:41:22Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> No matter someone flagged me on the one where I meant really, like shut-up.  
> Not STFU. I typed “shut up”  
> And I got dinged on it because I must be a serial “shut-up-erer” because egads! I said it twice! Bad, beck.

I, but not Miller, welcome you to report every instance of someone telling you to shut up in the fucking Pit.  
🪑 🍿

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/116 "2025-03-29T03:45:40Z")

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I’m good. Thanks, not Miller.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/117 "2025-03-29T03:48:01Z")

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Of course you are because you never got modded on “it” in the Pit because it isn’t a fucking violation of any Pit rule.  
See ~~the~~ your double back sneakiness?  
Congrats on making yourself the mid season replacement for _The Jasmin Show_!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/118 "2025-03-29T03:53:28Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Hey, what happened to the Smapti show?

I’ve accepted that regardless of what opinion I express in this type of thread, the consensus will be that I’m wrong and mentally ill. If I say Trump’s not going to invade Canada or have the Supreme Court executed it means I’m a fascist bootlicker who’s ignoring the problem. If I say rule of law is broken and direct action is necessary to fight fascism, it means I’m an anarchist lunatic. If I say Israel has the right to defend itself from terrorists I’m a pro-genocide racist, and if I call out Israel for abetting a lynching it gets ignored so people can debate the logsistics of drowning animals in an airport toilet.

I’m surprised I haven’t turned half the board maga by declaring that Trump is bad. I am become Schrodinger’s Poster.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/119 "2025-03-29T03:56:30Z")

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Wow! I came in expecting to read a pit thread about serial moron **Jasmine** , but instead got yet another **beckathon**. Who could have predicted this?

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/120 "2025-03-29T03:59:46Z")

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Well, I believe the day does end in ‘y’

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