# User Jasmine’s opinions regarding the US system of jurisprudence

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 27, 2025, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214 "2025-03-27T18:10:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/121 "2025-03-29T04:04:53Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> If I say rule of law is broken and direct action is necessary to fight fascism, it means I’m an anarchist lunatic.

Maybe you shouldn’t have spent all that time saying, pretty much, exactly that when folks disagreed with your position that there wasn’t anything to worry about because the rule of law would protect us from Trump.

Maybe I miss it but I saw no ‘Mea culpa, you guys were right and I was wrong.’ all I’ve seen is you flip-flopping.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/122 "2025-03-29T04:11:18Z")

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Or maybe there exists some degree of nuance between the only two extremes that you want to acknowledge the existence of.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/123 "2025-03-29T04:12:52Z")

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🪞  
I think you should have one of these.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/124 "2025-03-29T04:18:11Z")

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So, was I wrong then, or am I wrong now? Because if I’ve “flip-flopped”, then I can’t be both.

And if you guys were right before when I was disagreeing with you, but now that I agree with what you were saying before I’m still wrong, doesn’t that mean you’ve flip-flopped as well?

Keep the mirror. I’m not particularly vain.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/125 "2025-03-29T05:10:47Z")

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Did I say it was in the pit?

I think I said I got modded on it. Might’ve just been a note.

As an invective, “shut up” is about as lame as you can get. If you wanna know my thoughts on it.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/126 "2025-03-29T05:21:08Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> And to be clear, while I did call out that specific poster this was not intended to be a general criticism of her character but to specifically address the view expressed in that post and shared by others. Had I put more thought into it I would have made it a non-poster-specific o.p. but it was cut & pasted from the original thread after the moderator (correctly) adjudicated that opinions about the application of summary judgment was not an appropriate discussion for the **Factual Questions** forum.

This is completely fair and I think everyone makes (mild) mistakes like that now and then.

And as I said, I wholeheartedly agree with the substance of your OP and think it’s a good basis for a thread and in the right venue.

> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> @Jasmine did, as noted above, apologize for her off-the-cuff remarks, and you’ll note that I haven’t made any further issue of her statement, and to the extent that acknowledgement of her retraction need be made, I’ll note she did so immediately and with succinct grace after the moderator’s note, so I don’t think anything more needs to be made of her views.

This is good to reiterate and I also think her response was a good one.

I appreciate the reminder of why we **try** to have a fair legal system and also to acknowledge that sometimes emotions for a particular situation lead people to forget why the system takes time to allow for a fair trial. It’s a system of justice, not vengeance.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/127 "2025-03-29T11:50:36Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Quit tryna make this about me.  
> Get a hobby.

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Lotta words to just tell me to shut-up.

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> No no no. You’re not aloud to say “shut up”. I got modded on it.

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> And I got dinged on it because I must be a serial “shut-up-erer” because egads! I said it twice! Bad, beck.

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> As an invective, “shut up” is about as lame as you can get. If you wanna know my thoughts on it.

_ **ERMAGERD** _

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/128 "2025-03-29T11:56:20Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Or maybe there exists some degree of nuance between the only two extremes that you want to acknowledge the existence of.

Damn, Boy. If I cared enough to go back, I’m quite sure I made this _exact argument_ to _you_ on numerous occasions.

Finally got through, huh? Congrats!

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/129 "2025-03-29T13:02:08Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> ermagerd

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> ERMAGERD

![](https://media.tenor.com/IuzzQCTpaHcAAAAM/dog-wtf-shookt.gif "Dog Wtf Shookt GIF - Dog Wtf Shookt Omg - Discover & Share GIFs")

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/130 "2025-03-29T13:32:43Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Or maybe there exists some degree of nuance between the only two extremes that you want to acknowledge the existence of.

Nuance is not your specialty.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/131 "2025-03-29T17:31:27Z")

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Wow. That’s offensive.

Ok.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/132 "2025-03-29T17:35:54Z")

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You read your own words and a creative spelling of OMG and you find it offensive? In the Pit?

You really are a first class fuckwit.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/133 "2025-03-29T17:53:18Z")

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I can’t help it, I find in offensive.

Your name calling opinion of me, no matter where, is not impressive.

Fuckwit? What are you? In seventh grade gym class?

If you’re gonna try to call me names, at least be original.  
@Left_Hand_of_Dorkness was at least imaginative. (But its not original or creative, its a meme meant to offend)

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/134 "2025-03-29T18:00:25Z")

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You are demanding originality?

Wow!

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/135 "2025-03-29T18:02:57Z")

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I don’t think I demanded anything.

Just sayin’

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/136 "2025-03-29T18:38:26Z")

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I tend to save the imaginative retorts for that deserve them, myself.  
Hmmm…that _would_ explain all the blunt responses you have received, wouldn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/137 "2025-03-29T20:16:25Z")

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I just think you love me so much you can’t help but tease me.

Awwww. 😍

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/138 "2025-03-29T20:24:26Z")

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You are so full of shit you can see the turds between the words.  
This “cutesy” crap you post is tiring and no one is buying it any more, so stop with this “Poor widdle ol’ me” crap because you can’t be so stupid as to not know that there are different rules for different forums-_No one_ is that stupid.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/139 "2025-03-29T20:46:37Z")

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Well done to everyone helping Beck back up on her cross…y’all just can’t fucking help it, can you?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-jasmine-s-opinions-regarding-the-us-system-of-jurisprudence/1016214/140 "2025-03-29T21:55:30Z")

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Sigh. Seemingly not.

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