# User Kaitlyn has been banned **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [February 25, 2005, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830 "2005-02-25T05:44:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/21 "2005-02-25T15:59:00Z")
> [@Jimmy Chitwood](#): > > Of all the places on the internet, and I mean that quite literally, wouldn’t you think that the SDMB would be the very last membership group to be fooled by a fake? I mean, if I decided tomorrow to become Julie Chitwood on the boards, I’d be found out in less than an hour from when I started pretending. I doubt I could make one post on the subject, even if I did a little background research, without coming across as an obvious fake. You’d certainly be found out if you followed Kaitlin’s route and simply changed your handle on adopting a new identity. But if you were a new poster? If you were reasonably careful and consistent I don’t think you’d have a hard task keeping up the dissimulation. You place too much faith in the perception of SDMB members. ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/22 "2005-02-25T16:32:54Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > If everybody’s personna were as close to real life as mine is this place could get pretty boring. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/23 "2005-02-25T16:35:46Z")
I was a bit sad and upset on seeing this news this morning. I had lurked here for a year or two, since before paid subscriptions came about. It was the thread titled **Miss Kaitlyn’s first day in the classroom** (or somesuch) that moved me to get off the fence and plunk my money down. I too was happy to see a success story like **Kaitlyn** ’s, and to hear of a truly compassionate and strong human being like her principal. To now learn that it was all lies has been a downer. BUT. Then I remembered why I really signed up. It wasn’t because of **Kaitlyn** , or her principal. That thread was the catalyst, sure, but what really convinced me to become a SDMB member was the demonstration of a community. People were supportive, people were caring, people were _good._ I realize that those few posts were mere slivers of the posters’ actual lives and personalities, but the overall sense of acceptance and rightness (forgive my slide into hokeyness) made me want very much to be a part of that. That part hasn’t changed. To **Kaitlyn** , who I bet is still reading this: I have at times played at being someone or something I’m not. The internet facilitates this to a very high degree. My hope is that you someday find happiness with who and what you are. Peace. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/24 "2005-02-25T17:01:41Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > If everybody’s personna were as close to real life as mine is this place could get pretty boring. Speak for yourself, dahling. “Nobody can be exactly like me… some days I even have trouble doing it.” - Tallulah Bankhead ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/25 "2005-02-25T17:11:05Z")
Wow. I… geez. I never expected this. _is in a little shock_ ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/26 "2005-02-25T17:29:02Z")
> [@Fat Bald Guy](#): > > So, why was **Can of Pineapples** banned? Was he/she just a sock puppet set up to expose Kaitlyn? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/27 "2005-02-25T18:04:33Z")
I made a point a long time ago never to lie about myself. I know this seems really goody 2 shoes, but it’s true. You see, I have a nack for lying. I can fool almost anyone into believing anything, as long as it’sremotley possible, i.e. obviously not saying that I’ve walked on the moon or some such. The problem with lies is that you have to consciously remember them or they’ll trip you up. There’s no effort in remembering the truth. So even though I can lie in a very convincing way, the effort of keeping track of the lies is just too much. I’ve also made a point never to try to be something I’m not on the Net, because there’s no gain in it for me. I never expect to meet another doper, so I really don’t care what others here think about me, except my on line persona. And here, as in real life, keeping track of the lies would be too much work. OTOH, if I were writing on a board where there is a chance that I might meet someone in the flesh, and possibly feel that flesh, painting myself as something I’m not, will only expose me as a fake and ruin whetever kind of relationship I could have with that person. The same goes for dating, I never try to put myself in a position where I can’t back up what I’ve implied. I’ve been hurt from my own stupidity and made a financial mess out of my life a long time ago, and I’m still paying off those debts. I make a point of saying that very early, when I meet a girl, since nothing can ruin a relationship as bad finances. Presenting a fake persona on a message board for four years, _four_, just seems tragic. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/28 "2005-02-25T18:18:04Z")
> [@The Gaspode](#): > > Presenting a fake persona on a message board for four years, _four_, just seems tragic. I’ll say. The schoolteacher outing thread was incredibly detailed. How disturbed must **Kaitlyn** have been to have lived in such a dream world? And why lie? What’s the point? ---
**Author:** ![Leviosaurus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Leviosaurus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leviosaurus)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/29 "2005-02-25T18:18:28Z")
Seems to me to be a variant on the [‘Munchausen by Internet’](http://www.healthyplace.com/site/article_faking.asp) condition which is becoming all to prevalent on boards like these. If that’s the case, **Kaitlyn** should probably seek professional help. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/30 "2005-02-25T18:28:28Z")
> [@Elza B](#): > > You know, I read every single one of **Kaitlyn’s** threads I could find, although I don’t think we exchanged more than two words. As someone who spent a lot of her twenties wondering about her own sexuality, I saw Kaitlyn as a role model to be who you are, and be proud of that. > > Now I’m feeling a strange sense of disappointment. Not anger, not annoyance…just disappointment. > > Strange. > > E. Geoffrey Chaucer’s\* Canturbury Tales\*: The Priest’s Tale, I believe it was, raises the question of whether or not a priest has to actually be moral and Godly in his private life, so long as his flock believes he is and his words are the words of God. It’s been about 20 years since I read it, so I can’t really remember what GC thought of the whole issue. My point is, all of us are in drag to some extent. In real life or on the internet we project what we want seen (I’m not really a Spaniard, for instance). If **Kaitlyn** gave courage to those who may have needed it, how can the reality lessen or nullify that effect? The Bible is a source of strength for a lot of people, and I consider it one of the oldest History Novels in existence. The reality you experience is relative, no? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/31 "2005-02-25T18:33:32Z")
> [@Leviosaurus](#): > > Seems to me to be a variant on the [‘Munchausen by Internet’](http://www.healthyplace.com/site/article_faking.asp) condition which is becoming all to prevalent on boards like these. If that’s the case, **Kaitlyn** should probably seek professional help. Sounds like _Fight Club_ to me. Makes me wonder if **Kaitlyn** was just **Number Six’s** Tyler. ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/32 "2005-02-25T18:36:16Z")
> [@Fat Bald Guy](#): > > So, why was **Can of Pineapples** banned? Was he/she just a sock puppet set up to expose Kaitlyn? Are you really a fat, bald guy? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/33 "2005-02-25T18:50:46Z")
When a sock puppet like **Can of Pineapples** is banned, is that person’s primary identity banned, too? Do we find out who **Can of Pineapples** was a sock puppet for? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/34 "2005-02-25T18:53:01Z")
> [@InvisibleWombat](#): > > Do we find out who **Can of Pineapples** was a sock puppet for? I don’t get why everyone keeps asking this. It’s not our business who it was. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/35 "2005-02-25T18:57:28Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > I don’t get why everyone keeps asking this. It’s not our business who it was. Why not? It has been standard policy to ban all identities of a sock puppet. I would expect us to be told that that has happened. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/36 "2005-02-25T18:57:48Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > I don’t get why everyone keeps asking this. It’s not our business who it was. Exactly. What matters is that he or she exposed an elaborate hoax. Whever they were, good on them! ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/37 "2005-02-25T19:01:03Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Exactly. What matters is that he or she exposed an elaborate hoax. Whever they were, good on them! Or even whoever. ---
**Author:** ![XJETGIRLX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9fc29f/32.png) [@XJETGIRLX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XJETGIRLX)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/38 "2005-02-25T19:04:55Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > I don’t get why everyone keeps asking this. It’s not our business who it was. I think the reason people keep asking it is because in light of recent events, some people might think ‘sock’ was shorthand for ‘we needed a reason to ban him’ ---
**Author:** ![EmeraldGrue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dc4da7/32.png) [@EmeraldGrue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmeraldGrue)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/39 "2005-02-25T19:38:33Z")
:eek: , just :eek: . …how could **Kaitlyn/Number Six** _do_ that?! ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/40 "2005-02-25T19:43:52Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > I don’t get why everyone keeps asking this. It’s not our business who it was. The hell it isn’t. Someone who is that obsessive about collecting information, who hides behind a sock, and who does so in order to air dirty laundry instead of reporting it to the mods as is the accepted procedure, is someone I want to keep an eye on. It’s still not entirely clear to me whether the **Number Six** persona or the **Kaitlyn** persona is the fake, or both. If the former, and she really was someone confused about her gender, then I can undertand why someone in that situation would fear the reactions of those who learn the truth. If, as seems more likely, **Kaitlyn** really was a middle-aged straight white guy who sought attention, well, that’s lame. Either way, I’ve become a lot more understanding about the issues facing the transgendered than I was three or four months ago. Whether my empathy was deserved or not, well, it’s true, there are other Bambis out there. –Cliffy [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830.md?page=3)