# User Kaitlyn has been banned **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [February 25, 2005, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830 "2005-02-25T05:44:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/41 "2005-02-25T19:47:04Z")
> [@The Gaspode](#): > > Presenting a fake persona on a message board for four years, _four_, just seems tragic. Well, that’s not what he did. For the vast majority of his time here, he presented himself as a somewhat unremarkable white guy, which is most likely the truth. Then a few months ago, he outed himself as a cross-dresser and changed his user name to Kaitlyn in a sort of “Kaitlyn Comes Out” thread. Kaitlyn then spun out of control into a transgendered Korean phase, then crashed and burned yesterday. As far as I can remember, the deception only lasted a couple of months. NOTE: There were several threads started by Kaitlyn that I didn’t read, so there may be some information that I’m missing. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/42 "2005-02-25T19:48:12Z")
From what I gather, **Can of Pineapples** said (not here) that he/she was not a sock of a CURRENTLY REGISTERED member. Which means that he or she was either a returning banned user, or someone whose guest membership expired. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/43 "2005-02-25T19:48:29Z")
> [@Inigo Montoya](#): > > My point is, all of us are in drag to some extent. In real life or on the internet we project what we want seen (I’m not really a Spaniard, for instance). If **Kaitlyn** gave courage to those who may have needed it, how can the reality lessen or nullify that effect? The Bible is a source of strength for a lot of people, and I consider it one of the oldest History Novels in existence. The reality you experience is relative, no? Sure, but there’s a difference between taking a fanciful username and inventing a whole persona. I don’t think anyone on this board really thinks you’re Mandy Patinkin wielding a sword, looking for the Six-Fingered Man. **Number Six** / **Kaitlyn** , on the other hand, invented a whole mythology about him/herself, and in the process, trivialized a good bit about what transgendered people actually go through. Not everyone has an understanding spouse and boss or has an easy time transitioning. Think of it this way. Let’s say that I claim to be Jewish. (FTR, I am.) I answer questions about Judaism and sing its praises. And let’s further say that someone decides to convert to Judaism on the basis of what I’m saying. I then confess to lying about being Jewish; that I’m really (insert some religion) and, in truth, I know nothing about being Jewish. The person still converts. Am I a hero for bringing this person to Judaism? No, I’m a lying sack who played with others’ emotions for their own amusement. The story still works out in the end, but that doesn’t excuse my actions. I think, in the end, that’s what the deal is here. Just because this person may have given hope to some people doesn’t mitigate the fact that they were playing with us from the get-go. And that’s inexcusable. Robin ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/44 "2005-02-25T19:50:17Z")
I’d like to state for the record that I don’t really suffer from “Munchausen by Internet” but I did pretend to once. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/45 "2005-02-25T19:53:55Z")
> [@Cliffy](#): > > The hell it isn’t. Someone who is that obsessive about collecting information, who hides behind a sock, and who does so in order to air dirty laundry instead of reporting it to the mods as is the accepted procedure, is someone I want to keep an eye on. What’s the matter, **Cliffy**? Afraid some lies are going to come back and bite you in the ass? It becomes our business when/if the mods decide to make it our business. Not a second sooner. ---
**Author:** ![smoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@smoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smoke)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/46 "2005-02-25T20:00:26Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > From what I gather, **Can of Pineapples** said (not here) that he/she was not a sock of a CURRENTLY REGISTERED member. Which means that he or she was either a returning banned user, or someone whose guest membership expired. …or someone who didn’t sign up when we went pay to play. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/47 "2005-02-25T20:02:53Z")
> [@MsRobyn](#): > > Think of it this way. Let’s say that I claim to be Jewish. (FTR, I am.) I answer questions about Judaism and sing its praises. And let’s further say that someone decides to convert to Judaism on the basis of what I’m saying. I then confess to lying about being Jewish; that I’m really (insert some religion) and, in truth, I know nothing about being Jewish. The person still converts. Am I a hero for bringing this person to Judaism? No, I’m a lying sack who played with others’ emotions for their own amusement. The story still works out in the end, but that doesn’t excuse my actions. Didn’t this happen recently, with someone in GD claiming to be a recent convert to Islam? It turned out he had hijacked someone’s computer and was posting under their user name. I think we’ve all fudged things here and there. I know I have, for anonymity reasons. But, at the end of the day, I am still a 30-something straight, non-transgendered woman married to a disabled husband with two kids. I think, bottom line, **Kaitlyn** was an attention whore. And I find that very sad, to be so insecure. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/48 "2005-02-25T20:09:32Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Didn’t this happen recently, with someone in GD claiming to be a recent convert to Islam? It turned out he had hijacked someone’s computer and was posting under their user name. Actually it was someone who really did recently convert to Islam, got her ass handed to her in GD and then claimed that she really was a Moslem but someone else posted in the GD thread to make her look bad. Haj ---
**Author:** ![Rufus\_Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@Rufus\_Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rufus_Xavier)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/49 "2005-02-25T20:50:14Z")
So maybe “Kaitlyn” was really some homeless guy who sat next to **Number Six** in the library and changed the username and posted a whole bunch of garbage to make **Number Six** look bad. 😛 Too bad Kaitlyn didn’t try that explanation. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/50 "2005-02-25T21:08:14Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Actually it was someone who really did recently convert to Islam, got her ass handed to her in GD and then claimed that she really was a Moslem but someone else posted in the GD thread to make her look bad. > > Haj Oh, is that what happened? I missed that part. How did we figure that out? ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/51 "2005-02-25T21:24:14Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > From what I gather, Can of Pineapples said (not here) that he/she was not a sock of a CURRENTLY REGISTERED member. Which means that he or she was either a returning banned user, or someone whose guest membership expired. > > > [@smoke](#): > > > > …or someone who didn’t sign up when we went pay to play. If that were the case, how did they use the Search funtion? A Registered User would have had to do the searching. Which means, if the Mods can’t match that IP, this User emailed someone else and had them do the dirty work. Or made their sock on a machine at some cafe somewhere or whatever. Either way, that Registered User is a chickenshit, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Rufus\_Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@Rufus\_Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rufus_Xavier)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/52 "2005-02-25T21:29:01Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Oh, is that what happened? I missed that part. How did we figure that out? she told us: > [@sarah w](#): > > What was going on with the computer, to the best of my knowledge, is this: I don’t have a computer at home. I come to the library to use the public computers. Lots of homeless men also use the computers. Some of these guys aren’t all there. I definitely shouldn’t have left the computer unattended. I’m sorry for that, and I don’t know what else to say here. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/53 "2005-02-25T21:35:53Z")
But you said Sarah herself was the one who converted to Islam, and then blamed it on someone hacking her user name. Did I misunderstand you? ---
**Author:** ![Rufus\_Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@Rufus\_Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rufus_Xavier)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/54 "2005-02-25T21:45:50Z")
I don’t see anything about being a “recent” convert, but there is this: > [@sarah w](#): > > I CAN tell you what it’s to be a ‘white Muslim’ in America. posted after the admission that her username had been hijacked. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/55 "2005-02-25T21:47:05Z")
> [@John Carter of Mars](#): > > Well, that’s not what he did. For the vast majority of his time here, he presented himself as a somewhat unremarkable white guy, which is most likely the truth. > Then a few months ago, he outed himself as a cross-dresser and changed his user name to Kaitlyn in a sort of “Kaitlyn Comes Out” thread. Kaitlyn then spun out of control into a transgendered Korean phase, then crashed and burned yesterday. > As far as I can remember, the deception only lasted a couple of months. > > NOTE: There were several threads started by Kaitlyn that I didn’t read, so there may be some information that I’m missing. [Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5881638&postcount=134) **Katlyin** says, “Nearly everything I ever posted here about any aspect of my personal life before late December of last year was a lie, mostly made up out of whole cloth, with certain elements borrowed from my brother’s life. The lies weren’t even consistent with each other, as has been pointed out here. As in my real life, I was attempting to pass myself off as something I wasn’t, and doing a poor job of it.” ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/56 "2005-02-25T21:58:52Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > What’s the matter, **Cliffy**? Afraid some lies are going to come back and bite you in the ass? It becomes our business when/if the mods decide to make it our business. Not a second sooner. Only the guilty should be worried, eh, **Ashtar**? Go fuck yourself. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/57 "2005-02-25T22:02:26Z")
My thinking exactly, **Dooku**. ---
**Author:** ![elfbabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b782af/32.png) [@elfbabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfbabe)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/58 "2005-02-25T22:03:49Z")
Sheesh… I sure bought it. If anybody’s wondering, I’m not actually an elf. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/59 "2005-02-25T22:05:57Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > From what I gather, **Can of Pineapples** said (not here) that he/she was not a sock of a CURRENTLY REGISTERED member. Which means that he or she was either a returning banned user, or someone whose guest membership expired. Or a liar. ---
**Author:** ![cher3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@cher3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cher3)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2005, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830/60 "2005-02-25T22:07:12Z")
Am I misremembering, or was all the **Kaitlyn** hoopla part of the reason that **Eve** decided to stop posting? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/user-kaitlyn-has-been-banned/291830.md?page=4)