# Using the put-down "firstname-y Mc-lastname" **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 16, 2005, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-the-put-down-firstname-y-mc-lastname/308522 "2005-06-16T11:52:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-the-put-down-firstname-y-mc-lastname/308522/41 "2005-06-17T11:23:53Z")
I’d love to see a Doper be named **Firstname-y McLastname**. I think that’s the funniest one in the thread. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-the-put-down-firstname-y-mc-lastname/308522/42 "2005-06-17T13:58:47Z")
> [@Trunk](#): > > I’d love to see a Doper be named **Firstname-y McLastname**. I think that’s the funniest one in the thread. Yep - I was thinking **Firsty McLastname**. and **Push You Down**? the “Johnny” lingo came from the late 1800’s - from clowns, IIRC. The travelling-circus clown community used it and it led to phrases like **Johnny Come-Lately** and **Johnny One Note** , etc… ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-the-put-down-firstname-y-mc-lastname/308522/43 "2005-06-17T14:43:12Z")
> [@FilmGeek](#): > > Not the first time, but Ross calls his student girlfriend “Cutie McPretty”. Indeed, Ross had similar names for all his students because he was too shy and uninterested to learn any of the others’ names. In an episode of MST3K (Space Mutiny) Mike and the Bots rattled off dozens of names for the large, lunkeaded hero such as Biff McHugelarge, Rip Bigbeef, etc., etc. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-the-put-down-firstname-y-mc-lastname/308522/44 "2005-06-17T16:04:36Z")
… Sigh… Yes the “Johnny” convention did exist before now… BUT it is replacing the “Mc” convention as hip slang… It’s the NEW thing. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-the-put-down-firstname-y-mc-lastname/308522/45 "2005-06-17T16:09:15Z")
What about a Scottish Terrier named Filthy McNasty? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-the-put-down-firstname-y-mc-lastname/308522/46 "2005-06-17T16:10:33Z")
> [@Push You Down](#): > > BUT it is replacing the “Mc” convention as hip slang… It’s the NEW thing. Sounds more like a warmed-over old thing. And I’ve never been hip, so I dispute that part of your comment. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-the-put-down-firstname-y-mc-lastname/308522/47 "2005-06-17T16:56:53Z")
> [@Padeye](#): > > I still like Joey Jo-Jo Shabbadoo better. That was his dad, the character on the Simpsons was Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabbadoo! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-the-put-down-firstname-y-mc-lastname/308522/48 "2005-06-17T17:50:05Z")
All the way back in the Eighties, Boston Celtics radio announcer Johnny Most (may his memory be blessed) was calling the Detroit Pistons’ Rick Mahorn and Bill Laimbeer “McFilthy and McNasty”. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-the-put-down-firstname-y-mc-lastname/308522/49 "2005-06-17T19:13:40Z")
> [@Push You Down](#): > > … Sigh… Yes the “Johnny” convention did exist before now… BUT it is replacing the “Mc” convention as hip slang… It’s the NEW thing. wow, thank you so much for your patience with us feeble-minded types. Can’t thank you enough… ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-the-put-down-firstname-y-mc-lastname/308522/50 "2005-06-17T20:20:19Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > Why does “Phoney McRingRing” sound familiar as well, from a Simpsons context? Phoney McRingRing is the mascot and president of the phone company. He appeared in a promotional film once Springfield recieved a new area code pointing out that even a monkey can remember ten digits, so you should have no problem remembering to punch in an area code when you call. To correct **Marley23** , _Flaming Moe’s_, the episode that featured a reference to the fictional Tipsy McStagger, aired in 1991, not 1995. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2005, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-the-put-down-firstname-y-mc-lastname/308522/51 "2005-06-17T21:46:31Z")
About the “currency” of the “Johnny …” idiom. If I were to post to the SDMB today and use a “Johnny …” phrase would I be a Johnny Come-lately or Johnny On-the-spot? ---
**Author:** ![Myron\_Van\_Horowitzski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Myron\_Van\_Horowitzski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myron_Van_Horowitzski)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-the-put-down-firstname-y-mc-lastname/308522/52 "2005-06-19T23:06:16Z")
What about Blood Sweat & Tears’ Lucretia MacEvil? From 1970. /showing my age ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-the-put-down-firstname-y-mc-lastname/308522/53 "2005-06-29T19:27:38Z")
It was used on an episode of _Mystery Science Theater 3000_ some time in the early 1990s, so it clearly predates 1997. ---
**Author:** ![PinkMarabou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@PinkMarabou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PinkMarabou)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-the-put-down-firstname-y-mc-lastname/308522/54 "2005-06-29T19:54:32Z")
On the Stephanie Miller show they call Scott McClellen “Puffy McMoonface”. I guess because he gets all huffy when reporters ask him questions he doesn’t want to answer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-the-put-down-firstname-y-mc-lastname/308522.md?page=2)