# Using your keyboard number pad

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 27, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041 "2018-09-27T17:47:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/1 "2018-09-27T17:47:42Z")

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When you have to type numbers, do you use the keys above the letters or the separate keypad to the right? This, of course, assumes you have the separate keypad.

I prefer the keypad and my NumLock is always engaged. My husband uses the pad for its other functions and disables the NumLock - that makes me say bad things when he uses my computer. :eek:

Who’s with me?

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**Author:** ![senoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@senoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/senoy)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/2 "2018-09-27T17:49:35Z")

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Both. Depends upon what I’m doing. If I’m writing say the number 4 in isolation, I use the keys above the letters. If I’m filling in a spreadsheet with dozens of lines of numbers, I use the keypad.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/3 "2018-09-27T17:52:22Z")

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The number pad? Don’t you mean the \* and + pad, with several purely ornamental buttons there as well?

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/4 "2018-09-27T17:56:53Z")

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> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> My husband uses the pad for its other functions and disables the NumLock …

That would make no sense on a full-size keyboard, because those other functions are on dedicated keys located between the alphabet keys and the numeric keypad.

If it’s a laptop or space-saver keyboard with no arrow keys and insert/delete etc between the main keyboard and the numeric keypad, that might be forgivable. But I personally don’t do that. I use the numeric keypad to type any long sequence of numbers.

Also, I remember PIN numbers visually, on the numeric keypad. I’d have to think very hard to type any of my PIN numbers on a regular keyboard without a numeric keypad.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/5 "2018-09-27T19:00:38Z")

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I use the numeric keypad on my desktop, and when typing numbers on a laptop reach for the keypad and have a _FTW?_ moment when it isn’t there.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/6 "2018-09-27T19:01:09Z")

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The only time I use the keypad to enter numbers is when I’m entering my credit card number. Otherwise I’m not entering enough numbers in a row for it to be worth moving my hand all the way over there.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/7 "2018-09-27T19:05:12Z")

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I use the keypad for doing number stuff, except when writing a sentence like “I have 2 dogs.”

I use a desktop most of the time but as my second machine I specifically bought a laptop with a keypad, because I am so used to having one.

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**Author:** ![RadicalPi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/radicalpi/32/9806_2.png) [@RadicalPi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RadicalPi)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/8 "2018-09-27T19:22:37Z")

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> [@Mr\_Shine](#):
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> The number pad? Don’t you mean the \* and + pad, with several purely ornamental buttons there as well?

???

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/9 "2018-09-27T19:25:13Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> That would make no sense on a full-size keyboard, because those other functions are on dedicated keys located between the alphabet keys and the numeric keypad.

That’s the way I see it, but I’ll allow the man his quirks, as long as he doesn’t mess with my keyboard settings!

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/10 "2018-09-27T19:28:38Z")

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> [@RadicalPi](#):
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> ???

That’s next to the right shift key, not on the numberpad.

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/11 "2018-09-27T19:33:43Z")

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I use a full-sized keyboard most of the time and when I’m doing data entry (especially numeric-only data entry) the keypad is what I use. It’s a lot faster.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/12 "2018-09-27T19:35:27Z")

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As a kid, I learned typing using a manual that had lessons for the number keys at the top just like it had for the rest of the keys, so I learned to use those number keys first and can use them as fast as the other keys. Consequently, I’ve never had any use for the keypad on the side.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/13 "2018-09-27T20:00:56Z")

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Only when using classic software like Nethack.

Sometimes I go thru spells where I have to enter numbers quite a bit and I find using the row keys faster. My fingers stay at “home base” more for the other stuff I’m typing.

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**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/14 "2018-09-27T20:08:07Z")

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I’m not organized or consistent with this - I’m a pretty clumsy typist.

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**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/15 "2018-09-27T20:12:32Z")

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You know what, when my son bought me a laptop some years ago, he asked me if I used the number keypad, and I said no. So I got a laptop without one. And then it turned out that I used it all the time, but not really consciously. Putting in my zip code, putting in passwords that required numbers, typing my address. I did not even realize I was doing it until I couldn’t.

So yeah. On my desktop I use the number keypad all the time. Now I know.

I don’t know how I could be so clueless, but that’s the nature of cluelessness isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/16 "2018-09-27T20:26:12Z")

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I use the keypad when I need to enter a lot of numbers, and the main keyboard for single numbers.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/17 "2018-09-27T20:35:05Z")

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I guess I would use the number pad if I was entering lots of numbers, but I mostly just use the editing functions on the keypad. If there were a way to get the upper row of keys permanently shifted, I might get used to using the number pad instead, but I don’t think that’s possible.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/18 "2018-09-27T21:21:58Z")

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I use the separate number pad. I spend as much time on a calculator as I do on a keyboard, so it feels much more natural. And since I use a laptop as my daily computer, I make sure to always get one with the number pad. It sure does decrease your options on what to buy, though!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/19 "2018-09-27T22:14:26Z")

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My MacBook doesn’t have a separate number pad, so I use the numbers across the top. At the office, I use the keypad with my right hand and the mouse with my left hand.

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**Author:** ![TRC4941](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trc4941/32/6792_2.png) [@TRC4941](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TRC4941)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/using-your-keyboard-number-pad/822041/20 "2018-09-28T15:35:52Z")

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Number pad! That’s my claim to fame. I’m as fast as lightning on the number pad.

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