# USS Abraham Lincoln **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 15, 2026, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359 "2026-08-15T21:31:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/362 "2026-08-21T14:29:17Z")
Do we know if the Washington was suppose to relieve the Lincoln? The Washington is actually home ported in Japan. I think the reports coming from the Lincoln and outcry may have forced Hegseth’s hand. Now the Teddy can either relieve the Washington or head of Japan. You replied to my reply to @Velocity and appear to have missed some context. I was giving a best guess only to his query. ---
**Author:** ![Thumper668](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thumper668/32/20803_2.png) [@Thumper668](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thumper668)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/363 "2026-08-21T14:39:32Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > So if they ever remake Star Trek IV Fun fact - the original was filming some scenes at the Monterey Bay Aquarium (which was playing the Sausalito Aquarium) when I was in Russian school at DLI. I was paid $25 to be an extra in some of those scenes, but I’ve never been able to find myself in the final cut. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/364 "2026-08-21T14:41:25Z")
I was on the USS Ranger when they filmed the carrier scene. I may or may not be in the brief Hangar Bay scene. We didn’t get any money though. I think we were just considered scenery. 🙂 and yes, I’ve mentioned this maybe a hundred times before. Sorry ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/365 "2026-08-21T14:44:07Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > But i know that logistics is something the military is (supposed to be) extremely good at. The United States Navy is still the very best in the world, but because of decisions that have been made over the last 30 years, it simply can’t do this anymore. Full stop. You can’t squeeze blood from a turnip. Just imagine that you are in charge of distribution for a supermarket chain in New York City. You have your warehouse in Queens ( I’m not from there so I have no fucking idea if that’s realistic or not) so you have a fleet of trucks to handle deliveries to the store. Because you aren’t stupid, you know how many trucks you normally need, and add some more for busy days and breakdowns. Then, for whatever reason, you have to move the warehouses to California. I know this isn’t realistic, but stay with me. You simply don’t have enough trucks anymore. It doesn’t matter how good you are at logistics. It doesn’t matter if you have the best geniuses working on scheduling. Now the trucks have to go thousands of miles instead of tens of miles. Where one truck could make multiple trips in a day, it’s going to be gone for a couple of weeks just on one run. You won’t be able to sell milk, ice cream or other perishables and frozen foods anymore. The decisions were made to no longer have enough ships to supply fleets anywhere in the world. Rather, we built bases close to where we anticipated trouble and calculated the number of supply ships that would work with that model. But the enemy gets a say, and the forward bases were attacked and essentially knocked out as logistics hubs. Apparently, the closest base now is Diego Garcia, 2,200 nm away instead of just over a hundred. We had a comfortable number of ships if we could use the forward bases, but not enough now. We can’t magically build more ships, so the situation is SOL. There are people in the Pentagon, who understood that this mission was going to be really difficult if it lasted more than (however long). Trump and Hegseth are not going to listen to reason, so even if the admirals told them the truth, it would get ignored. Probably every administration and congress from the 90s is responsible in some degree for the basic problem. What makes this a clusterfuck is that other administrations didn’t start wars with Iran, and they would have listened to the experts. ---
**Author:** ![Thumper668](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thumper668/32/20803_2.png) [@Thumper668](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thumper668)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/366 "2026-08-21T14:45:43Z")
I think it’s well worth mentioning 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/367 "2026-08-21T14:48:01Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Do we know if the Washington was suppose to relieve the Lincoln? I’m pretty sure that was never the plan until the DoD stopped pretending the Lincoln could just stay there until the end of the war (ie forever). ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/368 "2026-08-21T14:49:57Z")
As an electrician I had access to a lot of odd spots, so I got to watch Nimoy direct some scenes from a great vantage. For full nerd cred, I have Walter Koenig’s signature on his picture as Chekov in one of my Star Trek Role Playing Game books ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/369 "2026-08-21T14:52:51Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > and yes, I’ve mentioned this maybe a hundred times before. Sorry If I had appeared, however minimally, in a Star Trek movie I would mention the fact every chance I got too! “Hello, I’m Frodo Baggins, did you know that I appeared in Star Trek IV?” ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/370 "2026-08-21T15:05:47Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > That was the real reason the last of the battleships under construction stalled during the war, and then never made it into commission after: there just wasn’t a need for them anymore. True enough, but the last of the big guys, the New Jersey, was sure welcome in Vietnam. Being able to launch artillery shells 20 miles was a plus, and it was a morale booster for soldiers on the front lines. Not so much for the NVA. I remember hearing outgoing rounds flying overhead to their destination. Sounded like an airborne freight train. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/371 "2026-08-21T15:10:38Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Well CVN-80 will be ready around 2031. That will be the third Big “E”. They’ll have to redo the scenes of “all these ships were named Enterprise” in the films. I guess AI/cgi can do it [![](https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/ship_walls/ship-wall-startreki-1-s.jpg) ](https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/ship_walls/ship-wall-startreki-1-s.jpg) > [@What\_Exit](#): > > and yes, I’ve mentioned this maybe a hundred times before. Sorry > [@Frodo](#): > > “Hello, I’m Frodo Baggins, did you know that I appeared in Star Trek IV?” Hey, I wasn’t in a ST movie. so it’s OK.I’m still impressed. One of my annoyances from the later years of Starlog magazine is how they would mention actors with a parenthetical of their largest sci fi movie/TV role, ignoring their entire ‘other’ career. So, it’s one thing to introduce William (Star Trek) Shatner, maybe Mark (Star Wars) Hamill, but I think Peter (Star Wars) Cushing and Alex (Star Wars) Guiness might be known for…other roles. So have fun, What (Star Trek IV) Exit! ---
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/372 "2026-08-21T15:47:59Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Do we know if the Washington was suppose to relieve the Lincoln? The Washington is actually home ported in Japan. All available info supports that The Washington was not supposed to relieve the USS Lincoln. Carrier Strike Group 5 (USS George Washington, cruiser USS Robert Smalls, and destroyer USS Shoup) was in the middle of a planned South China Sea patrol deployment, which included Port Calls in Vietnam and the Philippines and continued patrol of the South China Sea after participating in the Valiant Shield 2026 multinational exercise. Of course, Carrier strike groups can and have been reassigned at any time to address emergent political crises. But if Hegsbreath or anyone from CENTCOM says this was a planned relief all along, I would say they are lying. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/373 "2026-08-21T15:50:27Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > As an electrician I had access to a lot of odd spots, so I got to watch Nimoy direct some scenes from a great vantage. That’s super cool, and i haven’t seen you post it before. And it’s definitely worth mentioning! ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/374 "2026-08-21T15:56:13Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > but I think Peter (Star Wars) Cushing and Alex (Star Wars) Guiness might be known for…other roles. To the large majority of the general public? Not really. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/375 "2026-08-21T15:56:57Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Well, not exactly. More like it was a total war when every resource that could be found went into building ships that might actually be useful. True but in the interwar period six to eight years was more typical for building a battleship and [_Jean Bart_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_battleship_Jean_Bart_(1940)) set the record at eighteen, albeit due to circumstances. The point is the process for constructing USS _Trump_ will still be far from laying steel before 2029 rolls around and I am optimistic enough to think that even a Republican President and congress will cancel it. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/376 "2026-08-21T16:43:15Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > They’ll have to redo the scenes of “all these ships were named Enterprise” in the films Well, for that scene, it was already incorrect (in the most literal interpretation of the criteria), since only one US Navy aircraft carrier (CVN-65) was represented, but at the time of production there had already been two. Not to mention the multiple sailing ships named _Enterprise_ in the pre-independence Royal Navy or the sailing era of the US Navy, which is represented by a single image. You can assume the heritage list of _Enterprise_ is notional and flexible. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/377 "2026-08-21T16:44:43Z")
I don’t know if this is off-topic or not (mods, you can decide,) but now the Navy may do the awful thing of taking the Doris Miller name away from an upcoming aircraft carrier and (possibly) naming it for Trump. > **[Exclusive: Navy weighs renaming carrier slated to honor Black war hero,...](https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/20/politics/navy-weighs-renaming-carrier-black-war-hero-to-trump?Date=20260820&Profile=CNNPolitics)** > > The US Navy is working to rename an aircraft carrier under construction that was set to honor a Black sailor hailed for his heroic actions during the attack on Pearl Harbor, three sources familiar with internal discussions told CNN. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/378 "2026-08-21T16:48:49Z")
This honestly makes me feel ill. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/379 "2026-08-21T16:53:30Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > I don’t know if this is off-topic or not (mods, you can decide,) We’re in the Pit, you’re fine here. > [@Chefguy](#): > > This honestly makes me feel ill. Me too, I really hope this doesn’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![Thumper668](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thumper668/32/20803_2.png) [@Thumper668](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thumper668)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/380 "2026-08-21T16:54:48Z")
I honestly believe that this administration actively seeks out proposals likely to have that reaction. For my own sanity I do my best to filter them out until they materialize. ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/381 "2026-08-21T17:08:22Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Probably every administration and congress from the 90s is responsible in some degree for the basic problem If we want to go back to basics, we can include administrations from the 1950s onward. That 1953 coup enabled by the CIA started this chain. And we can look to the British for years of bungling and plundering before that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359.md?page=20)