# USS Abraham Lincoln

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 15, 2026, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359 "2026-08-15T21:31:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/382 "2026-08-21T17:15:51Z")

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> [@TokyoBayer](#):
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> Apparently, the closest base now is Diego Garcia, 2,200 nm away instead of just over a hundred.

Diego Garcia has been attacked as well, although the US said one missile failed and one was intercepted while Iran said “wasn’t us”. From the picture in the linked article, it doesn’t look like the easiest target to hit but then again it doesn’t look like the easiest place to defend either:

> **[2026 Iranian strike on Diego Garcia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iranian_strike_on_Diego_Garcia)**
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> On 20 March 2026, Iran launched at least two Khorramshahr-4 intercontinental ballistic missiles toward the island of Diego Garcia, British Indian Ocean Territory. Neither missile struck the target. According to Pentagon sources cited by The Wall Street Journal, one missile failed during flight, while a SM-3 interceptor launched from a United States warship successfully intercepted the second. Israel also claimed that the strikes occurred, and added that such weapons had the capability of targetin...

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/383 "2026-08-21T18:08:16Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I don’t know if this is off-topic or not (mods, you can decide,) but now the Navy may do the awful thing of taking the Doris Miller name away from an upcoming aircraft carrier and (possibly) naming it for Trump.

If the Navy has a garbage scow, it should be the USS Trump. That I would accept.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/384 "2026-08-21T18:12:46Z")

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Garbage scows, like custodial staff, perform a necessary job nobody wants to do.

It’s insulting to suggest naming a vessel that performs an honorable, if unpleasant, task for actual garbage that doesn’t do any work at all.

if they had some rusted out hunk of junk whose only purpose was target practice for better vessels, that, maybe, I could see naming for him.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/385 "2026-08-21T18:22:38Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Garbage scows, like custodial staff, perform a necessary job nobody wants to do.
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> It’s insulting to suggest naming a vessel that performs an honorable, if unpleasant, task for actual garbage that doesn’t do any work at all.

Right. I get it. In the end nothing should be named after him. I can’t think of anything low enough to represent him.

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/386 "2026-08-21T18:29:33Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Right. I get it. In the end nothing should be named after him. I can’t think of anything low enough to represent him.

I can. The contents of the sanitary (i.e. wastewater) tanks on a vessel. “Shitter’s full! Time to pump out the Trump!”

It fits him perfectly, figuratively and literally.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/387 "2026-08-21T18:32:13Z")

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I mean … even the “Port-A-Trump” has a nice ring to it.

Think of it: rows of them at stadiums, construction sites, events, campgrounds, street fairs, farmers’ markets, and the like, all gleaming in blue (or maybe repainted to match his face) with those nice white sun-repelling lids (or maybe repainted to match his hair) – slowly, steadily, and predictably getting ever-more full of shit.

No offense, @enipla , but it feels like your heart just wasn’t totally in this one 😉

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/388 "2026-08-21T18:33:52Z")

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Maybe even paint 'em gold, since he seems to like that

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/389 "2026-08-21T18:52:13Z")

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I mean …

[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPGFkky1l8OGZ9qOQmZJsBP1arI1MDKW6BZgKIV9Q_YCcfdCa82RaH2gp3oV9YK4pPqImQ3rzIEiJ5768krYb-Cdh0z_LDUem-_q1_5Kl1VWjah4ws=w600-h315-p-k "New photo · Friday, Aug 21 📸") ](https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPsBhThfXq39bGdS-uPugxAUqfcdGpWEj_c-hUtkmThWNYT9KlHyC9qw3lPSurixw?key=cFkyd1AwSE1BSnp3SGFESW03U25mZFdCTThEa053)

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/390 "2026-08-21T19:18:13Z")

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Needs to be more orange. Perhaps the top should be some sort of ‘gold’ or whatever his hair is.

And the model should be #8647

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/391 "2026-08-21T19:31:02Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> If the Navy has a garbage scow, it should be the USS Trump.

I didn’t mean to say that the Trump should be hauling garbage, I meant to say that it should be hauled away _as_ garbage!

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/392 "2026-08-21T19:34:14Z")

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Why not both?

At some point in his life, he should put in an actual single day of actual work, which still isn’t anywhere close to what he’s made these sailors do

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/393 "2026-08-21T19:36:03Z")

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Don’t do it, Scotty!

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/394 "2026-08-21T19:38:50Z")

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The problem is, he’s not smart enough to run a broom.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/395 "2026-08-21T19:40:57Z")

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> [@Dorjan](#):
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> There is an official casualty list:
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> [Defense Casualty Analysis System](https://dcas.dmdc.osd.mil/dcas/conflictCasualties/oefu/namesOfFallen)
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> Interestingly, the link doesn’t seem to be working at the moment.

It’s working now, and lists 14 names. So, yes, if there’s someone else who died and isn’t on that list, their family would be raising a big stink.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/396 "2026-08-21T19:50:47Z")

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That should be 18.

There was a stink last month when they tried to use 14 deaths as “the” number of deaths and was forced to admit to 4 additional ones that they’re trying to sweep up under “overseas operations” since they occurred during a “ceasefire”.

> **[Pentagon lowers official Iran war death toll, omitting four killed this month](https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/24/pentagon-removed-four-official-iran-war-death-toll.html)**
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> The Pentagon lowered its official Iran war death toll to 14 from 18, removing four service members killed this month.

> **[Pentagon adds 60 wounded to Iran war casualty count](https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2026-08-21/iran-war-casualty-increase-22617896.html)**
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> Further American service members wounded in the Iran war were added to the Pentagon’s count of military casualties, bringing the total number to 775.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/397 "2026-08-21T19:58:33Z")

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Okay, then yes, the number is ~18. There’s no way to discretely exclude a death from a published list that’s purported to include every death.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/398 "2026-08-21T20:11:09Z")

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On the other hand, if, hypothetically, they claimed 20 deaths, but didn’t list them, then the true number could easily be hundreds, because it would only be falsified by some reporter tracking down more than 20 deaths on their own.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/399 "2026-08-21T20:35:40Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> They’ll have to redo the scenes of “all these ships were named Enterprise” in the films. I guess AI/cgi can do it

Not just the films. In TNG Piccard’s day room had stainless steel half models of all the steam-powered (1874 sloop of war on) _Enterprise_s on a wall. CVN-80 of course, was not among them.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/400 "2026-08-21T20:44:28Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> CVN-80 of course, was not among them.

Well that proves it! It’s an alternate timeline!

(note: I hate alternate timeline story crutches FY JJ Abrams.)

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/401 "2026-08-21T21:01:39Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> If the Navy has a garbage scow, it should be the USS Trump.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ecbta8ucd0Y/hqdefault.jpg "Hauled Away As Garbage - Star Trek: TOS") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecbta8ucd0Y)

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