# USS Abraham Lincoln **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 15, 2026, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359 "2026-08-15T21:31:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/522 "2026-09-01T20:31:48Z")
Do they show a modernized version of the old VD scare film prior to the port call 😃 [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/jsN-bV_HVA8/maxresdefault.jpg "U.S. NAVY 1952 VENEREAL DISEASE SCARE FILM " V.D. TAKING CHANCES " SYPHILIS & GONORRHEA 85474") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsN-bV_HVA8) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/523 "2026-09-01T20:32:31Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > One is that the idiocy of the _Defiant_-class battleships, who’s only saving grace will be that they will never see active service, but will suck up billions of dollars and vital time isn’t restricted to the _Defiant_-class itself. They are going to be the high part of the high-low mix of obscenely expensive ships that, even if the systems needed for them to be effective actually existed (the railguns, lasers, hypersonic missiles and the advanced ammunition for the 5" guns don’t actually exist yet) would make the ships absurd overkill for any role they would actually fill. Ironically, this sounds pretty similar to the _Defiant_ on _Deep Space Nine_. It was a prototype ship that was overgunned and overpowered and nearly tore itself apart in use, and the class was (initially) abandoned. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/524 "2026-09-01T20:44:35Z")
> [@robby](#): > > Welcome news for the crew. Of course everyone should realize the whole crew can’t just lock up and leave for the week Sure they can. Just leave the key under the welcome mat. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/525 "2026-09-02T14:45:20Z")
> [@Dorjan](#): > > Do they show a modernized version of the old VD scare film prior to the port call 😃 Maybe a similar warning about your electronic devices. "You can pick up a computer virus anywhere, and it can take many forms. Remember: if you interface with another device, you’re interfacing with every device that device has ever inteffaced with. So use protection? " ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/526 "2026-09-02T14:51:09Z")
Reminds me of the military quip to sailors (not sure if real or not): “Do not add to the local population. Do not subtract from the local population.” ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/527 "2026-09-02T14:52:23Z")
One night in Bangkok đŸŽ¶ ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/528 "2026-09-02T14:56:40Z")
during this whole comedy of errors, I was struck by thinking, we have 11 carriers but only 3 available at any given time–what does it say about our preparedness? and all these high-priced vessels are also high-maintenance, so not dependable when needed. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/529 "2026-09-02T15:05:53Z")
Usually, 5 more carriers can be made ready to go in 1-7 days. A good chance 3 are indeed undergoing more serious refits and maintenance. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/530 "2026-09-02T15:12:31Z")
[Gift link](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/09/02/us/iran-war-us-navy-carriers-supply.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-FA.7oF6.x8ZYXzKbYVxy&smid=url-share) to an illustrated New York Times article on the logistical issues involved in deploying aircraft carriers like the USS Abraham Lincoln. > The Navy has about 20 ships in the Middle East, carrying roughly 20,000 sailors and Marines. The logistical challenges are immense: The ships need enough food for more than 420,000 meals and about eight million gallons of fuel each week. ---
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/531 "2026-09-02T16:51:40Z")
> [@fedman1](#): > > during this whole comedy of errors, I was struck by thinking, we have 11 carriers but only 3 available at any given time–what does it say about our preparedness? and all these high-priced vessels are also high-maintenance, so not dependable when needed. This is actually somewhat normal. If you want 3-4 carriers actually deployed at any one time, you need around 11. Others will be coming off deployment, undergoing pre/post deployment maintenance which takes a while, in a training or qualification cycle, or are in drydock undergoing significant maintenance or upgrades. IIRC the actual USN goal is 2 continuously deployed overseas, with three capable of deploying within 90 days. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/532 "2026-09-02T18:12:54Z")
The pictures of the Lincoln going into port are _rough_. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/533 "2026-09-02T18:26:36Z")
I just saw an interesting bit of trivia that I don’t think was mentioned yet. The Lincoln was the ship with the famous Mission Accomplished banner during the Second Gulf War. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/534 "2026-09-02T18:30:17Z")
That’s perfect because we have mission accomplished in Iran, too! (It seems that the mission was to commit war crimes and give control of the Strait of Hormuz to Iran. Yay!) ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/535 "2026-09-02T18:46:48Z")
> [@fedman1](#): > > and all these high-priced vessels are also high-maintenance, so not dependable when needed. High maintenance does not imply low dependability ( or reliability ) If something takes lot of maintenance ( or repair,or being taken off line for operator training etc) , that effect is required in order to maintain the operational ability for whatever operational envelope you have determined . If you skip the maintenance or go outside the planned operational envelope, then sure you can expect problems. Something that needs a lot of maintenance is typically a something that is expected to have a very high operational ability and envelope. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/536 "2026-09-02T18:50:03Z")
See also: WWII German war equipment vs US war equipment ---
**Author:** ![Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swords_to_Plowshares)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/537 "2026-09-02T18:53:12Z")
Shipbuilding is a very dirty industry. It’s something an advanced country should _want_ to import. ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/538 "2026-09-02T19:08:37Z")
but Pumpkinhead thinks we ca/should be able to build EVERYTHING! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/539 "2026-09-02T19:10:04Z")
> [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](#): > > Shipbuilding is a very dirty industry. It’s something an advanced country should _want_ to import Although you might want to keep building of your warships domestic. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/540 "2026-09-02T19:12:40Z")
I strongly agree with this statement. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2026, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/541 "2026-09-02T19:18:05Z")
Well, what if we have our allies build them for us? Oh right, we don’t have any anymore. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359.md?page=28)