# USS Abraham Lincoln **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 15, 2026, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359 "2026-08-15T21:31:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/642 "2026-09-04T17:57:45Z")
Or an unneutered male cat. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/643 "2026-09-04T17:58:44Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > So, an Offog? His name is not Peaslake, though. Sadly, The previous one came apart under gravitational stress. ---
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/644 "2026-09-04T18:01:00Z")
The ship’s cat(s) is a time honored naval tradition. [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Blackie_and_Churchill_(cropped).jpg/1280px-Blackie_and_Churchill_(cropped).jpg?utm_source=en.wikipedia.org&utm_campaign=imageinfo&utm_content=thumbnail) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Blackie_and_Churchill_(cropped).jpg/1280px-Blackie_and_Churchill_(cropped).jpg?utm_source=en.wikipedia.org&utm_campaign=imageinfo&utm_content=thumbnail) [![](https://i.insider.com/6450201274e9330018efc967?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp) ](https://i.insider.com/6450201274e9330018efc967?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp) I’m sure they’ll manage. ---
**Author:** ![Thumper668](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thumper668/32/20803_2.png) [@Thumper668](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thumper668)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/645 "2026-09-04T18:02:27Z")
> [@Dorjan](#): > > That would have to be one hell of a cat to accomplish that When I was on the John Marshall the whole berthing area smelled like ammonia. No one knew why and it was so pervasive there was no way to tell where it was coming from. When we pulled into port one of the guys in my berthing area was being transferred. When he pulled out his sea bag to pack, we all knew who the culprit was. It turned out his cat had pissed on his sea bag before he went to sea. He didn’t notice it because he was used to everything smelling like cat piss. If a cat can stink out a whole berthing area without ever setting foot on the ship I can only imagine what having one living aboard would be capable of. Leave the cats ashore. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/646 "2026-09-04T18:09:38Z")
I suppose ship’s cats were rat control, back in the day. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/647 "2026-09-04T18:32:48Z")
If they were at sea long enough, the midshipmen became rat control. ---
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/648 "2026-09-04T18:36:24Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > I suppose ship’s cats were rat control, back in the day. Also early weather warming, they are pretty sensitive to changes in barometric pressure. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/649 "2026-09-04T18:55:19Z")
I see that dog is a Captain. Is he allowed to fraternize with the lowly enlisted sailors? It would suck to be outranked by a dog. ---
**Author:** ![Thumper668](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thumper668/32/20803_2.png) [@Thumper668](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thumper668)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/650 "2026-09-04T19:01:33Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I see that dog is a Captain The way I read it, his full name is Captain Fathom, not CAPT Fathom. I do recall some Marine detachments that kept bulldogs who were given the rank of GySgt and were required to be addressed as Gunny. I would imagine (and I’m only speculating) that if Fathom is indeed a Navy Captain he is probably assigned to the chaplain corps and isn’t a line officer. Fraternizing with the lowly enlisted sailors is his job. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/651 "2026-09-04T19:44:51Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I see that dog is a Captain. Is he allowed to fraternize with the lowly enlisted sailors? Keep in mind, in dog ranks Captain only equals E2. He’d have to make Admiral to be the lowest rank dog officer, and that’s reserved for Schnauzers for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/652 "2026-09-04T19:52:20Z")
But if he serves in dog years, does he rate for early retirement soon? ---
**Author:** ![Thumper668](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thumper668/32/20803_2.png) [@Thumper668](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thumper668)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/653 "2026-09-04T19:54:49Z")
I should hope so with a 2002 day deployment on his sea service counter. His Sea Service Ribbon should have 5 silver and 2 bronze stars - I don’t think they’d all fit. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/654 "2026-09-04T19:58:44Z")
People are talking about the morale and logistic challenges aboard the USS Abe Lincoln. But aircraft carriers don’t operate by themselves. They operate in a carrier battlegroup of destroyers, cruisers, and submarines. Do those issues apply to those smaller escort ships as well? ---
**Author:** ![Thumper668](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thumper668/32/20803_2.png) [@Thumper668](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thumper668)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/655 "2026-09-04T20:09:21Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Do those issues apply to those smaller escort ships as well? Sort of, to the extent they all rely on underway replenishment (well subs don’t, usually) they will all be dealing with shortages. On the other hand, those ships are all easier to replace and the escorts attached to the battlegroup during a deployment will change during the course of a deployment. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/656 "2026-09-04T23:36:14Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > So apparently more a stretch than just cramming the mission into the same ship as I implied. From the article on the FF(X), bolding mine: > These 2 (or more) ships will have as little modifications from the National Security Cutter baseline as possible to reduce production time, with the main differences being the installation of a Rolling Airframe Missile launcher for point defense, the addition of an SPS-77 variant air search radar, **and the repurposing of the stern boat ramp to enable carriage of containerized payloads.** Again, that should have set off huge red flags to anyone familiar with the LCS and its failures, and why it is having to be retired prematurely. The ‘modular containerized payload’ model of the LCS has been an utter failure and is responsible in large part for its failure to perform successfully in its designed role and its early retirement. That the navy is choosing to repeat this mistake, this time on a hull designed as a Coast Guard cutter, does not bode well for the future of the FF(X) being more than yet another 3-ship failure before the plans and the rest of the ships of the class are cancelled. It’s barely armed and is going to be incapable of performing its designated mission. ---
**Author:** ![MysteriousCritter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@MysteriousCritter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteriousCritter)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/657 "2026-09-05T02:22:07Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > Really? While I fully support the notion of dogs being available for pets and snuggles, is there a reason a dog is onboard? It’s there as part of the on ship mental health support. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/658 "2026-09-05T05:56:42Z")
> [@RAWDuke](#): > > Did they get their testosterone boosters before the ship arrived in Thailand? Or did Kegsbreath fall down on the job again? I believe the tem you were seeking is _Step on his dick_. > [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > A lot is being made of the needed R&R, but isn’t this visit as much about reprovisioning that will make morale aboard ship more bearable for the remainder of the voyage? There are two kinds of ports on deployment: Liberty ports and Working ports. Liberty ports are those where only the day’s duty section is required to be aboard. Working ports are those ports where the entire crew works their usual working hours and after “quiting time”, only the duty section is required to remain aboard. > [@What\_Exit](#): > > Especially as the Lincoln will not even be at a dock most likely, but shore leave will be via ferries. Pattaya has long had a pier which can service Nimitz class carriers. Laem Chabong Port has anchorages instead and thus ferries. It’s been bandied about in the news in a number of places, but I guess it bears repeating. The top leadership has already warned there will be severe punishment for those engaging in sex with prostitutes. The liberty party is also restricted to a much smaller area than in the past. Another thing to remember is that, although much has been made of this being the USS Lincoln, that’s not the only ship involved. Carriers go nowhere alone. I think a fair rule of thum was the liberty party in a liberty port approaches 10,000 Sailors and Marines. > [@msmith537](#): > > NYC gets flooded with seamen every year during Fleet Week. Other than a lot of white uniforms around town, you pretty much never hear of any trouble. Many decades ago, a Sailor could get away with trouble ashore or even aboard ship. Today, though, it’s pretty much a career killer. [And the deployment is going to last a lot longer.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/why-uss-abraham-lincolns-thailand-202909983.html) > [@](#): > > The USS Abraham Lincoln will make another port stop before returning to the United States, according to the wife of a serving officer aboard the aircraft carrier, extending a deployment that has already raised concerns about conditions, maintenance and crew welfare. > > Ashley Rogers told _Newsweek_ that her husband said [the carrier must remain](https://www.newsweek.com/uss-abraham-lincoln-photos-reveal-warships-condition-as-it-makes-port-12394756) in the Indo-Pacific to complete time originally assigned to that region after it was diverted to the Middle East. > > “When I found out there was a second port stop, I was like, ‘I really don’t understand why,’” Rogers said. > > Rogers said that her husband told her the _Lincoln_ had not completed its required time in the Indo-Pacific because it was rerouted to support U.S. operations connected to the war with Iran. > > “The reason why is because this ship, the _Lincoln_, is actually assigned to and stationed in the Asian Pacific area of deployment, and where they were is not part of that area, that assignment,” Rogers said. > > “Because they were rerouted, and they did this whole other thing with Iran, they had not served their dedicated time to the Asian Pacific deployment area, and they’re still required to meet that time,” she added. “So they have to stay. They can’t come back.” > > Rogers said her husband told her that, even without the additional port call, the carrier would be required to remain in the region. > > “He said if they weren’t going to port, they would still have to be in the area because they’re committed to that time frame,” Rogers said. Nice violation of OpSec there, hubby. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/659 "2026-09-05T06:58:11Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Nice violation of OpSec there, hubby. Seriously. Talk about about a career-killer… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/660 "2026-09-05T08:01:51Z")
Perhaps it depends on how many journalists he’s invited into the chat. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359/661 "2026-09-05T10:51:40Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > “Because they were rerouted, and they did this whole other thing with Iran, they had not served their dedicated time to the Asian Pacific deployment area, and they’re still required to meet that time,” she added. “So they have to stay. They can’t come back.” Is this accurate? What kind of stone is this schedule engraved on? I would think this a good opportunity for Kegbreath pretend to care, and make a change that benefits the crew. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uss-abraham-lincoln/1032359.md?page=34)