Most ship collisions in shipping lanes becuase the parties at hand are either misinterpreting nautical right-of-way rules or because one of the vessels is having problems maintaining weigh and not communicating their distress. Collisions die to errors in navigation are still all too frequent despite GPS assistance because skippers overestimate their abilities or just aren’t paying attention.
Every time you make something ‘foolproof’, the fools just take it as a new challenge.
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The Chief of Navel Operations has ordered a operational pause and a special investigation.
I think it’s a very good move. The Navy has to determine why these accidents are occuring and get the problem corrected.
This saddens me again. Seems it should not be possible.
No not the latter. This would be rare.
Allisions, maybe, not collisions. Errors in navigation are where you don’t know your position, not errors in collision avoidance.
McCain is a walking train wreck. It looks like it’s carrying over to the ship.
I saw what you did there.
Thought maybe I could slip that one in.
Really respectful to the 10 missing sailors. Classy as usual, Clothy. :rolleyes:
Knock off the political jabs in this thread. No warning issued.
Ten missing this time 
It is never a convenient time for an “operational pause” of the fleet ('cause you need to have it underway and at the ready, and especially so Aegis platforms in East Asia these days) but the accrual of three collisions within 4 months does call for a check on what’s up.
Christ, you’re an asshole.
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One of my favorite nautical words.
CNN is has conflicting reports claiming a loss of steering on the McCain.
I’m surprised they haven’t recovered any of the ten missing men. They should have an accurate GPS for the accident. How far away could they drift before search planes got there?
I know the chance for survivors is slim.
It’s actually not used much outside the US IME but I know this is a largely US message board so I thought I would throw it in…
How fucking dare you? Ten sailors’ remains will be sent back to their families in draped caskets (if they’re found at all) and you sit there in your political swill w/o a care for them or their families?
Sacrifices are made in the US military for people who are fat, happy and ignorant of it, using those deaths only to hurt the political feelings of others when Gold Star families are living out their worst nightmare.
Where’s the conflicting part?
Two different officials gave different stories.
One says steering out. The other says they had fixed it.
Which official should we believe?
I’m assuming they both were talking off the record.
This is out of line in this forum. You cannot call someone an insult in MPSIMS. Use the Pit.
IME media have really tremendous difficulty with keeping the distinction between damage from before and after a marine incident. I’ve been involved in several where the media has reported that a ship was in a poor state and either implied or outright asserted that this was a cause or potential cause of the incident, when actually the ship was in a poor state because of the incident.
Too early to consider any information to be reliable, IME.
Both said the steering went out before the collision.