# Uvalde, Texas school shooting - the political thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 24, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036 "2022-05-24T21:36:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![teelabrown](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teelabrown/32/8412_2.png) [@teelabrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teelabrown)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/1 "2022-05-24T21:36:53Z")
This is the thread where I can ask the question, “How long will it take for Marjorie Taylor Greene to claim that this school shooting is fake news”? [Fifteen people dead in latest school shooting](https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/24/us/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Julius\_Henry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@Julius\_Henry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Julius_Henry)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/2 "2022-05-24T21:43:03Z")
> **[Ted Cruz Quickly Offers Throughts and Prayers After Children Are Killed in...](https://hillreporter.com/ted-cruz-quickly-offers-throughts-and-prayers-after-children-are-killed-in-texas-school-shooting-132192)** > > Ted Cruz Quickly Offers Throughts and Prayers After Children Are Killed in Texas School Shooting Thanks, Ted. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/3 "2022-05-24T21:47:14Z")
You might also ask how soon before someone in the Texas government says the answer is teachers must open carry while on duty… ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/4 "2022-05-24T21:50:15Z")
Hey, this isn’t the time, it’s too soon. You’re only allowed to try to solve the problem of having a mass shooting every month when it’s at least two years since the last mass shooting. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/5 "2022-05-24T21:53:03Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > You might also ask how soon before someone in the Texas government says the answer is teachers must open carry while on duty… Apparently minutes — our AG Ken Paxton gave an interview on Newsmax saying the solution is arming teachers. Which is already allowed in Texas. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/6 "2022-05-24T21:56:19Z")
Too bad the GOP isn’t as focused on protecting the lives of living, breathing school kids as they are on protecting unborn fetuses. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/7 "2022-05-24T22:06:34Z")
The shooter apparently has a Latino name and presumably darker skin so this is clearly Biden’s fault and never would have happened under Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/8 "2022-05-24T22:08:00Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Hey, this isn’t the time, it’s too soon. You’re only allowed to try to solve the problem of having a mass shooting every month when it’s at least two years since the last mass shooting. I believe that etiquette allows that you may immediately suggest that _more_ people be armed to address the problem. Apropos of which, since the issue of whether _people_ may be armed seems mired in contoversy, how about a bipartisan approach - let’s install the automated sentry turrets from _Aliens_ in schools. They could be posted in every corridor, and the teachers & kids would wear an IFF (identify friend or foe) RFID bracelet. (Having learned our lesson from _Aliens_, they would also be mounted in the crawlspaces.) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/HQDy-5IQvuU/hqdefault.jpg ""Aliens" Sentry Guns Scenes") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQDy-5IQvuU) ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/9 "2022-05-24T22:09:00Z")
I wonder why there is a big contingent of people who are mostly concerned about solving the ~450 (c. 2020) gun homicides that occur in “fantastical and media frenzy inspiring” mass shootings but seem oblivious or uninterested in the 13,000 other gun homicides that occur. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/10 "2022-05-24T22:13:58Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > The shooter apparently has a Latino name and presumably darker skin so this is clearly Biden’s fault and never would have happened under Trump. You’re not far off the mark. I just looked in at a RWNJ message board (in fairness, they’re not all RWNJs, but the majority are), and the shooter had to have been an illegal Mexican. Because, you know, Border Patrol officers were on the scene. When it was discovered that the shooter was an American citizen, and the Border Patrol officers coincidentally happened to be nearby, speculation turned to whether the shooter was transgender. Because, y’know, he just has that look. (Somebody dug up an Instagram photo purported to be the shooter.) You cannot make this stuff up. But they are so desperate to pin something, anything, they hate on this guy; that they are doing just that. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/11 "2022-05-24T22:14:25Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > our AG Ken Paxton gave an interview on Newsmax saying the solution is arming teachers. Fox News solution: Armed guards at every school building in America. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/12 "2022-05-24T22:14:43Z")
Who is that big contingent of people? I’m definitely concerned about both. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/13 "2022-05-24T22:15:00Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > You cannot make this stuff up. But they are so desperate to pin something, anything, they hate on this guy; that they are doing just that. - The fact he killed children doesn’t seem to bother them in the least. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/14 "2022-05-24T22:16:30Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I wonder why there is a big contingent of people who are mostly concerned about solving the ~450 (c. 2020) gun homicides that occur in “fantastical and media frenzy inspiring” mass shootings but seem oblivious or uninterested in the 13,000 other gun homicides that occur… Well, _neither_ of those things happen in my country of birth (or anywhere other than the U.S. and warzones). From the perspective of those who advocate change, it doesn’t really matter what specific aspect of gun violence motivates a solution that would address both problems. But the probability that the the implacable _resistance_ to any change might soften is perhaps a little higher when something dramatic like this hits the news. But I’m not holding my breath. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/15 "2022-05-24T22:17:53Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > but seem oblivious or uninterested in the 13,000 other gun homicides that occur. Might be because there’s something terrible about seeing 14 kids gunned down while attending school. There are 30 gun-related homicides that happen each and every day in this country. We’re all just a bit oblivious to these events. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/16 "2022-05-24T22:17:56Z")
The Republican reaction to a pile of dead children is always: a) how can I deflect any blame from our failed policies, b) how can I use this for my political advantage, and c) how can I use it to suppress the rights of non-whites? ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/17 "2022-05-24T22:19:49Z")
It does matter if your main goal is to shut down discussion about finding a solution. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/18 "2022-05-24T22:25:06Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Who is that big contingent of people? I’m definitely concerned about both. Well, this forum for starters. I went through GD, P&E, IMHO, MPSIMS and the PIT just now and copied a link to every thread dealing in some way with mass shootings, and here is how many we have had: > [@Mass Killings in the United States (2022)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-killings-in-the-united-states-2022/957844): > > Mass killings in the United States, 2022 Four or more dead (Suicides Indicated by an asterisk) By a single killer (The killer is charged, or would have been charged had he lived.) By any criminal means ==2022== 3 January 2022 near Columbia MO, 4\* killed (reckless driving) ([https://www.kansascity.com/news/state/missouri/article257034362.html](https://www.kansascity.com/news/state/missouri/article257034362.html)) 5 January 2022 Philadelphia PA, 12 killed (arson) ([Christmas tree ignited by young child probed as source of Fairmount house fire; vigil held to s…](https://www.inquirer.com/news/live/philadelphia-fire-fairmount-victims-cause-pha-updates-20220106.html?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=android&utm_campaign=app_android_article_share&utm_content=Q6PGDDWTFFCABLSCSVKADONNQQ) > [@21 Dead at Elementary School W of San Antonio, TX {May 24, 2022}](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-dead-at-elementary-school-w-of-san-antonio-tx-may-24-2022/965028/29): > > When are they going to well- regulate the fucking militia? > [@Mass shooting at Buffalo supermarket: 2022-05-14](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-buffalo-supermarket-2022-05-14/964438): > > Local sheriff says it was racially motivated. White shooter. > [@Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/238): > > Armed guards worked really well at parkland. 14 second to fourth graders are dead. The big idea they have is to have shootouts in elementary schools. Nothing like deadly ignorance. > [@Another White Male Perpetrates a Another Mass Shooting](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-white-male-perpetrates-a-another-mass-shooting/938463): > > This time in a supermarket in [Boulder, Colorado](https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/22/us/boulder-colorado-shooting/index.html) This is after the Asian Spa shootings last week When I started this topic Discourse “helpfully” listed another of similar topics and for once they actually were similar regarding white men shooting numbers of other people. As I always state, I do not think this behavior is representative of ALL white males, but they do seem more prone to it than other groups. I realize I put this in the Pit, because mass shootings are very much Pit-worthy, but … [https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-x-amount-of-mass-shootings-that-would-change-gun-supporters-minds-or-is-that-the-wrong-way-to-think/964380/322](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-x-amount-of-mass-shootings-that-would-change-gun-supporters-minds-or-is-that-the-wrong-way-to-think/964380/322) I see zero threads from any of those 5 forums with activity in the past month, that appears (at least based on thread title) to be concerned with America’s general homicide problem (which in 2020, meant 13,500 gun homicides, of which around 450 were in mass shootings.) ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/19 "2022-05-24T22:27:31Z")
Why haven’t you started one? ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036/20 "2022-05-24T22:28:08Z")
Because I perceive the forum to be hostile to solutions for most of these homicides and additionally, uninterested. People like what is flashy–even though the continual media hype around mass shootings, very likely costs lives: [Contagion in Mass Killings and School Shootings | PLOS ONE](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0117259) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-the-political-thread/965036.md?page=2)