# V: 2.01 "Red Stain" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 5, 2011, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431 "2011-01-05T00:44:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431/21 "2011-01-08T18:09:39Z")
On the bright side, apparently there are only 8 episodes left. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431/22 "2011-01-08T21:30:09Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > That’s funny that you give the writers anywhere near the credit to know that, or at very least care about it if they did. Didn’t they just confirm via blood test that Erika’s phosphor levels from 18 years ago (while she was pregnant with her teenage son) were elevated? No, she _remembers_ having a bloot test 18 years ago showing elevated phosphorus levels that her doctor couldn’t explain. Still have no clue how that would effect Tyler. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431/23 "2011-01-08T21:32:46Z")
Ah, that makes much more sense. But then what was the blood test in the episode for? ---
**Author:** ![ShelliBean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ShelliBean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShelliBean)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431/24 "2011-01-08T22:31:24Z")
I love the “slice the hand open” technique for taking blood - or whatever it was that she did. Yes, I know the show isn’t exactly rockets surgery, but, by god, it’s fabulous. I’m waiting for the episode where people start finding out they are aliens and didn’t know it. Because that would be just as plausible as anything else we’ve seen. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431/25 "2011-01-09T02:33:19Z")
> [@ShelliBean](#): > > I love the “slice the hand open” technique for taking blood - or whatever it was that she did. > > Yes, I know the show isn’t exactly rockets surgery, but, by god, it’s fabulous. I’m waiting for the episode where people start finding out they are aliens and didn’t know it. Because that would be just as plausible as anything else we’ve seen. 🙂 All this has happened before, it will happen again… So say we all 😉 Any guesses to when Tyler will start hearing “All along the watchtower” in his head? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431/26 "2011-01-09T04:11:31Z")
> [@MacTech](#): > > All this has happened before, it will happen again… > > So say we all 😉 > > Any guesses to when Tyler will start hearing “All along the watchtower” in his head? If it turns out that Anna is an angel, I’m going to fucking kill someone. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431/27 "2011-01-09T05:39:43Z")
If that turns out to be the case, it’ll be time for the “hot molten DVD’s into the director’s nasal passages” treatment… ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431/28 "2011-01-09T10:00:57Z")
Sometimes cheesy nonsense can be entertaining. But sometimes it’s just unbearable wince-inducing melodrama. I fear ‘V’ is the latter. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431/29 "2011-01-10T03:34:01Z")
> [@ShelliBean](#): > > I love the “slice the hand open” technique for taking blood - or whatever it was that she did. Yeah, I was waiting for the scientist guy to say, “uh yeah, that scalpel that you just grabbed without asking kinda had some gunk on it, so now the blood from that wound is pretty contaminated. I’ll have to use, you know, a syringe, like normal people. Oh and you might want to get a tetanus shot.” Yes, there was the usual terrible logic/acting. (I’d actually forgotten how bad it was since last season. Absence did make the heart grow fonder. Now I remember). But at least the plot’s finally moving a bit. We _finally_ get to see some more of the visitors’ bodies (and I’m not talking about Lisa, though that was appreciated… for the first 30 seconds. Then the scene just kept going and going and going… ) I’m pretty sure **Ellis Dee** is right. the V’s deliberately bred humans with high P for hybridization breeding purposes. But I don’t think they wanted a girl. V male + human female = 1 hybird (see Ryan and Val’s kid.) human male + V female probably means dozens of hybrids. (see Anna’s eggs, all fertilized by one V guy, IIRC.) Of course, a small sperm sample mixed with a dose of P should have the same effect as a decades-long experiment to create a high-P human male. But that’s V-logic for you. Of course there’s also the question of _why_ they want these hybrids. They are clearly capable of breeding true on their own. What’s the point? And the perennial question: why does Ryan know _nothing_ about his own species and their plans? Awesome to see Diana, though. Where’d they dig her up from? (and yes, the heels and dress were hilarious.) ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431/30 "2011-01-10T03:45:17Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > …Awesome to see Diana, though. Where’d they dig her up from? (and yes, the heels and dress were hilarious.) Apparently Miss Badler has been living and working in Australia for the last 20 years. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431/31 "2011-01-10T03:51:30Z")
Jane Badler hadn’t acted much lately, but was suddenly given a decent role in popular Australian soap opera _Neighbours_ as a character deliberately named Diana. Then, as she realised _V_ was returning, she put herself forward for a role, using her soap role as her audition. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431/32 "2011-01-10T05:27:57Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > I don’t think they wanted a girl. V male + human female = 1 hybird (see Ryan and Val’s kid.) human male + V female probably means dozens of hybrids. (see Anna’s eggs, all fertilized by one V guy, IIRC.) Oh yeah, good call. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431/33 "2011-01-10T16:25:14Z")
BTW, I wonder if they are basing the V society on something like ants or bees? Maybe the only ‘true’ females on board the ship are Anna and her daughter. The others could be sterile female ‘workers’ or possibly even males that were simply given female skins to help their work with humans. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431/34 "2011-01-11T02:28:03Z")
That was one of the worst hours of scifi tv i have watched in some time. I honestly have no idea why I watch this show. The writing, acting, direction, music and effects are all appalling. I fear I have got myself into one of those ‘waiting for it to get good’ stages with the addition of nostalgia for an 80s miniseries that is made to look better and better by every minute of this drivel. How is it doing ratings-wise? ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431/35 "2011-01-11T02:59:36Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > I honestly have no idea why I watch this show. I watch it because one of the mini-series, the one that aired when I was in second grade, sparked my life-long interest in the idea of human-[something else] hybrids. You probably have a similar excuse. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-2-01-red-stain-open-spoilers/566431.md?page=1)