# "V" Pilot Tonight — \[Open Spoilers after it airs\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 3, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169 "2009-11-03T16:09:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/41 "2009-11-04T02:33:32Z")

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> [@Amp](#):
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> …Plus what is Earth going to do? We know that the ships interfere with the electronics on fighter jets and presumably rockets and missiles.

Well, in the early stages when the Visitors are still pretending to be our friends they’d have to comply with a request to move their ships just to keep up appearances. Anna would say something like “Of course we’d be happy to move out ship if that’s what you want Mr President. By the way he hope to make arrangments for a dinner in your honour on out mothership some time in the future.”

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**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/42 "2009-11-04T02:43:35Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Well, in the early stages when the Visitors are still pretending to be our friends they’d have to comply with a request to move their ships just to keep up appearances. Anna would say something like “Of course we’d be happy to move out ship if that’s what you want Mr President. By the way he hope to make arrangments for a dinner in your honour on out mothership some time in the future.”

But again, the V’s have agents everywhere in all levels of government. How do we know the President isn’t already one of them? That would explain the whole birth certificate inconsistencies.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/43 "2009-11-04T02:50:25Z")

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> [@labtrash](#):
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> The guy who played Wash in Serenity (Alan Tudyk)had better survive the show!

I thought that looked like him. Watching the recording now. 🙂

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/44 "2009-11-04T03:18:13Z")

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I might change my sig.

“Rattlesnakes are God’s creatures too.” 🙂

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**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/45 "2009-11-04T03:27:19Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> It’s nice to see Wash and Inara…err, Alan and Morena, on the small screen again 🙂

I recognized Wash right away, but I can’t believe I did not recognize Inara. Didn’t even know until I read your post.

As an aside, why am I so excited about Firefly alumni? I love Castle too. I think there is something wrong with me.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/46 "2009-11-04T03:39:26Z")

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The most awesome moment was when Jesus tried to take out the guy in the wheelchair.

Scott Wolf still looks like he’s in high school.

I totally did not foresee Wash-lizard.

Overall, I was hoping for better. I’ll keep watching for a while to see if it improves.

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**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/47 "2009-11-04T03:43:49Z")

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Anna’s haircut reminds me of Kira Nerys from DS9. It would’ve been an inspired bit of casting if they could have landed that actress to play a **V** isitor. Perhaps a role as someone’s grandmother?

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**Author:** ![BKReporter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@BKReporter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BKReporter)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/48 "2009-11-04T04:01:02Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> It’d be cool to see a Robert Englund or Marc Singer cameo, too.

It’d be neat to see Marc Singer as a Visitor. One with ultratight pants of course.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/49 "2009-11-04T04:12:59Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> I totally did not foresee Wash-lizard.

A damn shame he bought the farm first night out with a nomiker like that. 🙂

> [@Tangent](#):
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> Overall, I was hoping for better.

Weren’t we all? I just hope that at the end God didn’t do it. Makes you wonder about Jesus trying to take out the guy in the wheel chair, unless that was a homage to _Gone With the Wind._

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/50 "2009-11-04T04:18:39Z")

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> [@BKReporter](#):
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> It’d be neat to see Marc Singer as a Visitor. One with ultratight pants of course.

Sir or Madame, you are forgetting _Beastmaster._

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/51 "2009-11-04T04:52:41Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> I just hope that at the end God didn’t do it. Makes you wonder about Jesus trying to take out the guy in the wheel chair\<snip\>

That’s concrete proof (or is it Plaster-of-Paris proof?..) of the _dangers_ of organized religion, religious icons teetering precariously overhead, waiting to squish people below…

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/52 "2009-11-04T05:16:45Z")

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Double-tap, bitch! Didn’t you learn anything at Quantico?

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/53 "2009-11-04T05:16:53Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> The most awesome moment was when Jesus tried to take out the guy in the wheelchair.

WWJD? Take out the gimp.

Jesus got busted up real good too, but later he was gone. I’m guessing he made communion.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/54 "2009-11-04T05:25:30Z")

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[QUOTE= Oakminster]

1. Her son just happening to join the Hitler Youth largely because he wants to bang the V-babe is ham-fisted writing.  
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I’d sign up with some Peace Ambassadors just to hit that.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/55 "2009-11-04T05:33:15Z")

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Is Morena Baccarin the one playing Anna?

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**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/56 "2009-11-04T05:55:59Z")

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**vivalostwages** , yes. As an “Anna” myself, it’s awesome to have an actress that pretty playing someone with my name.

> [@MacTech](#):
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> I can’t be the only one to wish there was a Doctor Who reference with the scene of the Mothership hovering over Big Ben/Parliament, maybe a scene of Ten on the top of the ship in a swordfight? 😉

My thought: “Gee, it’s nice to see that these aliens _haven’t_ destroyed Big Ben, even if they are evil and plotting.”

Later, when Erica’s son and his friend were in line to visit the V’s ship, there was a girl right behind them who looked an awful lot like the upcoming 11th Doctor’s companion (Amy) and I started getting fan fic ideas. And I don’t even write fic.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/57 "2009-11-04T06:39:30Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> :rolleyes: Good god. Not everything is political and you’d think someone doing a write-up of a sci-fi show would realize that “We bring gifts/change for humanity” is not exactly a new trope.
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> It was even part of the plot of the original V!

But was the graffiti that meant hope part of the original? I think that was definitely a nod [to this](http://miamiherald.typepad.com/crime_scene/2009/02/obamas-graffiti-artist-gets-arrested.html).

As lame as the orange jumpsuits and wrap-around glasses were, at least it was easy to tell the aliens from the people in the mini-series. Isn’t having them all look and sound just like us going to get confusing?

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/58 "2009-11-04T06:47:30Z")

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I’ll have to wait until tomorrow to watch the full episode, but I’m just watching the 8-minute preview on Hulu and I’ve got to say that the stupid is prevalent.

1. There’s an earthquake, hence everyone runs to the window/roof and looks up? Why? 😕
2. 10 seconds after the earthquake, the military is in the street, managing people. When the hell were they called in? 😕
3. There’s a barricade to stop people from going into a particular area. Yet…the number of regular civilians is just as populous on the far side of the barricade. 😕

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/59 "2009-11-04T07:04:12Z")

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I’m wondering how they made that giant spaceship microwave-transparent.

Or did I miss the part where all of New York and LA lost their satellite TV and all the network uplinks were blacked-out?

Maybe that’s what all the protests were about.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/60 "2009-11-04T12:54:26Z")

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I liked it. For a pilot, it was quite good - they set everything up pretty efficiently.

A lot of the stupid stuff didn’t bother me. Hot aliens arriving over all our major cities didn’t bother me. You know what bothered me? How did wheelchair guy get to the top of all those church steps?! 🙂

The other thing was the reporter gushing over how gorgeous all the Visitors are, when the ugly second-in-command guy was standing right there. Maybe my hawtness meter is miscalibrated, but he seemed at best average to me.

On the other hand, Alan is looking fiiiine. Kept the buff from _Dollhouse_, and he does evil really well. Morris Chestnut is no slouch either. Between them, Morena, and Elizabeth, there is no lack of eye candy in this.

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