# "V" Pilot Tonight — \[Open Spoilers after it airs\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 3, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169 "2009-11-03T16:09:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/121 "2009-11-04T22:19:16Z")
> [@The\_Controvert](#): > > I didn’t know Arkansas had one of the top 50 major cities in the world. Are you kidding? They’ve got like some 15 story buildings and stuff! -Joe ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/122 "2009-11-04T22:21:35Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > One thing I noticed that I thought was weird that they had NYPD standing guard for Anna’s first visit where that reporter yelled for others to show respect. Not to lookdown on the NYPD, bur something this big wouldn’t be watched over by beat cops, most likely the Secret Service or some sort of high speed military unit. Wasn’t she in the UN building? It wouldn’t be the NYPD or the Secret Service. It’d be UN security. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/123 "2009-11-05T00:42:38Z")
Anyone else notice that the address of the meeting building was “4400”? Nice nod to Joel Gretsch. ---
**Author:** ![flano1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f14d63/32.png) [@flano1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flano1)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/124 "2009-11-05T01:03:22Z")
> [@Glory](#): > > Loved it! All we need is Nathan Fillion for a cameo. slight hijack: loved the first scene in this weeks Castle! no spoiler. All firefly fans check it out. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/125 "2009-11-05T01:05:50Z")
> [@flano1](#): > > loved the first scene in this weeks Castle! > > no spoiler. Which was what? Mrs. Plant watches it, but she hails from New York and stopped the recording to watch baseball. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/126 "2009-11-05T02:10:43Z")
> [@The\_Controvert](#): > > Anna’s haircut reminds me of Kira Nerys from DS9. It would’ve been an inspired bit of casting if they could have landed that actress to play a **V** isitor. Perhaps a role as someone’s grandmother? Grandmother? Good lord, she’s not _that_ old. Is she? Man, Evil Kira was the hottest thing ever on television - grandmother my ass, _that’s_ the role Nana Visitor should reprise. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/127 "2009-11-05T02:15:25Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > Grandmother? Good lord, she’s not _that_ old. > > Is she? 52, so technically old enough to have a grandkid. Also, young enough to be a teenager’s parent - she has a 14 year old son. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/128 "2009-11-05T02:19:33Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > I already got my heart broken from _Pushing Daisies_. Must I fall in love with another show that didn’t make it because of heartless networks? Yes. The Dope is a cruel mistress. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/129 "2009-11-05T02:21:03Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > Man, Evil Kira was the hottest thing ever on television - grandmother my ass Word. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/130 "2009-11-05T02:31:03Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Gad, not \*another \*hybrid baby with superpowers who will save both species, I hope. I’m trying to figure out which is more likely: V will mimic the old TV show and give us human-lizard hybrids (there were twins, one lizard-y looking at birth and immediately died, the other human-like) OR Eastwick will follow the end of the movie and all three witches will be knocked up by the devilish character. If neither show is cancelled right away, I predict one or the other will happen. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/131 "2009-11-05T02:35:36Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > Yes. The Dope is a cruel mistress. By Gad, Sir, I may change my sig. ---
**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/132 "2009-11-05T03:11:04Z")
I’m hoping there is still going to be a big reveal and I’m hoping it goes something like this: The reason that the **V** isitors already have agents on Earth is because this is all happening in the same universe as the original series. After being defeated by humanity the first time, they left Earth in order to regroup and find a way to create an permanent immunity to the bacteria the humans used to defeat them. Before they left they used an “amnesia ray” to make everyone forget what happened, with the exception of the sleeper agents they left behind, the fifth columnists who defected and some humans who were immune to the “amnesia ray”. And now that they are back they are taking a different approach to world domination. Plus they’re pissed. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/133 "2009-11-05T03:19:11Z")
> [@Amp](#): > > I’m hoping there is still going to be a big reveal and I’m hoping it goes something like this: That’s _lame,_ Dude. You wouldn’t be whoosing the 'Plant, would you, however one spells it? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/134 "2009-11-05T06:50:29Z")
> [@Amp](#): > > Before they left they used an “amnesia ray” to make everyone forget what happened, with the exception of the sleeper agents they left behind, the fifth columnists who defected and some humans who were immune to the “amnesia ray”. What are you trying to sell us here? Everyone knows that it’s government agencies, not aliens, who mind-wipe people! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/135 "2009-11-05T08:57:51Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > Grandmother? Good lord, she’s not _that_ old. > > Is she? > > Man, Evil Kira was the hottest thing ever on television - grandmother my ass, _that’s_ the role Nana Visitor should reprise. So you’re saying Nana Visitor would not make a good Visitor Nana? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/136 "2009-11-05T13:35:25Z")
Get out. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/137 "2009-11-05T14:27:57Z")
Dumb question and a very minor point. The initial speech from the alien leader mentioned that they were here to borrow/buy/steal a “commonly available mineral”. How come no one bothered to ask _which_ mineral, how much they want and why? ---
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/138 "2009-11-05T14:51:05Z")
In three pages, no one has posted about my favorite line in the show. Near the beginning, shortly after the Visitors arrive, they show a TV with a crazed man-on-the-street interview. This young guy yells into the camera “Dude, it’s totally like _Independence Day_ in real life!” Remember when the movie _Independence Day_ totally ripped off the original _V_ with its giant flying saucers hovering over cities? Now, we have the new _V_ ripping off _Independence Day_ which ripped off old _V_. Well, I thought it was funny. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/139 "2009-11-05T15:03:47Z")
> [@Amp](#): > > How do we know the President isn’t already one of them? That would explain the whole birth certificate inconsistencies. That’s pretty funny. 🙂 IMHO, the show seemed to be shot/written/edited/whatever with the expectation that everybody watching it will be familiar with the original series, so they didn’t even try with the element of suspense. So I found it rather boring. I found it hard to tell the V’s and people apart - I thought for a while that Anna walked into the UN alone. The appeals to the more craven side of David Frost (or whatever the characters name was) about his career fell rather flat. The guy has to be the dumbest shiite around to want to work for a “boss” who (1) is an alien species with unknown motivations, and (2) argues for the sacrifice of professional and ethical principles so baldly… and so lamely. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169/140 "2009-11-05T15:22:15Z")
> [@Drum\_God](#): > > In three pages, no one has posted about my favorite line in the show. Near the beginning, shortly after the Visitors arrive, they show a TV with a crazed man-on-the-street interview. This young guy yells into the camera “Dude, it’s totally like _Independence Day_ in real life!” > > Remember when the movie _Independence Day_ totally ripped off the original _V_ with its giant flying saucers hovering over cities? Now, we have the new _V_ ripping off _Independence Day_ which ripped off old _V_. > > Well, I thought it was funny. Oh it was even better than that, the guy next to him pointed out that Independence Day was itself a rip off of other Sci Fi stories. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-pilot-tonight-open-spoilers-after-it-airs/516169.md?page=8)