# "V" — s1e2 — 11/10/09 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 10, 2009, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039 "2009-11-10T14:22:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![maniondl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@maniondl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maniondl)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/41 "2009-11-11T19:01:36Z")
> [@Oy](#): > > Perhaps, had a Visitor been raised from infancy among humans, thus conditioning him/her to find humans sexually attractive. But not as already adult infiltrators. Well, it seems to work for the Scots and their sheep. 😃 I keed! I keed! ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/42 "2009-11-11T19:06:24Z")
> [@maniondl](#): > > Well, it seems to work for the Scots and their sheep. 😃 I thought of that, I’m embarrassed to admit. But generally, people, er, interact with domestic animals either as experimentation or for lack of a human. And I have yet to hear of any human, er, interacting with reptiles, at least in an intimate social way. I’m rather hoping I never will. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/43 "2009-11-11T19:08:05Z")
> [@maniondl](#): > > The biggest problem I’m having is BLG is, by all appearances, actually sexually attracted to his girlfriend. To me that makes no sense. You’ve clearly never heard of furries or MMORPGs or… the internet ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/44 "2009-11-11T19:17:16Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > The address of the warehouse was “4400”. Considering the priest, it can’t be a coincidence. See previous [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11741696&postcount=123). ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/45 "2009-11-11T19:25:23Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#): > > You’ve clearly never heard of furries or MMORPGs or… the internet Or teenage males. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/46 "2009-11-11T19:28:11Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Nice shout-out to _A Knight’s Tale_…Dale’s wife’s name…is Jocelyn. 😃 > > I like how after the crash bang beginning they’re taking it a bit slower now, establishing more of the story line. And I want Anna’s mirror (when she was “trying on” different clothes.) I did also get a very good sense of not being able to trust anyone…I’m wondering about the older priest, Agent Evans boss…heck, maybe even Tyler’s friend! The old priest set off my Lizdar about ten seconds into the pilot. Very little doubt about him, unless he’s going to be mistakenly killed by the resistance. Most interesting thing about this one was the revelation that there was a previous resistance. So, all the people wondering how come they never got discovered before…they did. It’s just, well, who believes Eick? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/47 "2009-11-11T19:28:22Z")
I just had an “aha” moment. From the original mini-series: Robert Eglund was the visitor in love with the human who had the baby with the long, long tongue. Yes! ---
**Author:** ![maniondl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@maniondl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maniondl)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/48 "2009-11-11T19:34:30Z")
> [@jali](#): > > I just had an “aha” moment. > From the original mini-series: > Robert Eglund was the visitor in love with the human who had the baby with the long, long tongue. Yes! Not quite. Yes, he was the friendly lizard with a human girlfriend (Daisy? Maybe?) but it was Robin, a human teen girl who gave birth to the lizard baby. And a human-looking twin, who of course had magical powers. Because 11 times out of 10 that’s what interspecies breeding gets you. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/49 "2009-11-11T19:35:12Z")
> [@maniondl](#): > > Because 11 times out of 10 that’s what interspecies breeding gets you. It did on _Soap_. ---
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/50 "2009-11-11T19:39:24Z")
> [@maniondl](#): > > Not quite. Yes, he was the friendly lizard with a human girlfriend (Daisy? Maybe?) but it was Robin, a human teen girl who gave birth to the lizard baby. And a human-looking twin, who of course had magical powers. Because 11 times out of 10 that’s what interspecies breeding gets you. Thanks. I’m going to try to rewatch the original sometime soon. Mixed up memories. The baby I remember looked human until his tongue did the lizard thing. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/51 "2009-11-11T19:47:28Z")
> [@maniondl](#): > > Not quite. Yes, he was the friendly lizard with a human girlfriend (Daisy? Maybe?) but it was Robin, a human teen girl who gave birth to the lizard baby. And a human-looking twin, who of course had magical powers. Because 11 times out of 10 that’s what interspecies breeding gets you. Robert Englund was in love with Harmony…and I think she dies in the end. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/52 "2009-11-11T19:49:32Z")
> [@maniondl](#): > > Not quite. Yes, he was the friendly lizard with a human girlfriend (Daisy? Maybe?) but it was Robin, a human teen girl who gave birth to the lizard baby. And a human-looking twin, who of course had magical powers. Because 11 times out of 10 that’s what interspecies breeding gets you. Yep. Just re-watched the original 1983 2-part movie a week before this aired. Robin got impregnated by Brian on the mother ship. And she was a virgin. Talk about a chick with baggage. A nice surprise was seeing two of the regulars from **Oz** - Elias and Stanley Bernstein. My main question so far with the new series is how does BLG eat? In the originial they had refrigerators stocked with rodents which they would occasionally extend their jaws to eat. I guess they’ve evolved to people food, which is a shame, b/c that was a great moment in the original, when Marc Singer caught them eating a rat. And I think Scott Wolf is totally going to get kidnapped, killed, and replaced with a lizard Scott Wolf. (Bailey Salamander)? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/53 "2009-11-11T19:54:50Z")
> [@Morbo](#): > > I guess they’ve evolved to people food, Wait up. They began eating the same food that people eat, or they began eating people? ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/54 "2009-11-11T20:16:01Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Wait up. They began eating the same food that people eat, or they began eating people? The same food that people eat. I’m guessing here, on the assumption that BLG’s fiancee would probably wonder why her future husband is eating rats. > [@jali](#): > > Thanks. I’m going to try to rewatch the original sometime soon. Mixed up memories. > > The baby I remember looked human until his tongue did the lizard thing. You mean [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TufUH1T-F18&feature=related#t=02m05s)? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/55 "2009-11-11T20:33:52Z")
The thing that bothers me about this show is the relative non-involvement of the military. I still say there’s no way in hell alien spaceships will be allowed to park over cities. Also think pretty much all contact/negotiations would have been conducted with the military playing a much more visible role in the proceedings. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/56 "2009-11-11T20:40:43Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > The thing that bothers me about this show is the relative non-involvement of the military. I still say there’s no way in hell alien spaceships will be allowed to park over cities. The way the V’s took care of the F-16 in the opening montage (“Yeah, we’re gonna need a MON-TAGE!”) may have chastened them a bit. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/57 "2009-11-11T20:42:12Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > The thing that bothers me about this show is the relative non-involvement of the military. I still say there’s no way in hell alien spaceships will be allowed to park over cities. Also think pretty much all contact/negotiations would have been conducted with the military playing a much more visible role in the proceedings. It seems pretty clear to me that all of that sort of stuff is being done off-camera. We haven’t seen any real politicians to speak of, either. I prefer to credit the writers for keeping the story focused on the specific characters they’ve chosen to involve at this point than condemn them for not making this another generals-fly-fighter-jets-and-the-president-can-kickbox kind of story. Keep it focused on real(ish) people and it will be more involving, hopefully. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/58 "2009-11-11T20:47:53Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > That said, though, I’m really enjoying this so far. But, what was that line about ‘another resistance is unacceptable’ the male V second in command kinda guy threw out when reviewing the seeker footage? Any idea what that could refer to? They were pretty explicit in the first episode about that group not being the first time a resistance was being organized. BLG refused to join at first because it always ended with lots of people being killed. Which it did again i guess. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/59 "2009-11-11T20:56:03Z")
That’s entirely consistent with BLG having been one of the advance troops in a V offensive _on another planet_, presumably with whatever skin type was in fashion there. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039/60 "2009-11-11T21:03:14Z")
> [@KneadToKnow](#): > > It seems pretty clear to me that all of that sort of stuff is being done off-camera. We haven’t seen any real politicians to speak of, either. I prefer to credit the writers for keeping the story focused on the specific characters they’ve chosen to involve at this point than condemn them for not making this another generals-fly-fighter-jets-and-the-president-can-kickbox kind of story. Keep it focused on real(ish) people and it will be more involving, hopefully. Exactly. Apart from that, it seems pretty obvious to me that a military confrontation would be pretty one-sided. This is going to be kind of like the Os/Ka/Loq vs. the Irryan Colonies. The real battle won’t involve guns and planes, it’ll involve finding out what the V want and making it…unpalatable to them. -Joe [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/v-s1e2-11-10-09/517039.md?page=4)