# Vagina Dialogues - canceled, too offensive **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119 "2015-07-24T23:56:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/1 "2015-07-24T23:56:23Z")
> **[Women’s college theater group cancels ‘Vagina Monologues’ amid concerns that...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/01/16/womens-college-theater-group-cancels-vagina-monologues-because-its-offensive-to-women-who-dont-have-one/)** > > The Mount Holyoke College theater group worries that the play excludes transgender people. …As first reported in Campus Reform, a theater group at a women’s college says it will stop showing the play – forever. … The student-run theater group’s leaders asked the dean of students to send out an e-mail asking whether they should continue to run the play, according to Julia Ferrante, a spokeswoman for the college, and then another e-mail this week announcing the results of the survey. Because of students’ concerns about offending transgender people, the theater group canceled the play. ROTFLMAO. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/2 "2015-07-25T00:03:31Z")
Ah, ok, how does it possibly offend transgenders? Just cause they weren’t born with a who-ha?! (I would think it would offend uptight heteros much more easily!) And more importantly, so what if it does offend trangenders? (Given that I’m sure nobody ever cared about the offended uptight heteros!) And is the last line in the article: _Meanwhile, Ensler has her own new play: “O.P.C. (Obsessive Political Correctness).”_ an ironic joke?! ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/3 "2015-07-25T00:13:13Z")
Classic Americana. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_a\_Platypus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@Not\_a\_Platypus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_a_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/4 "2015-07-25T00:20:02Z")
I’m puzzled. Was it cancelled because it did offend transgender students, or because other students were worried that it might? Considering it’s a play that has long been offending a lot of people, it seems strange to stop doing it now because maybe it’ll offend a specific group. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/5 "2015-07-25T00:23:20Z")
> [@Hail\_Ants](#): > > Ah, ok, how does it possibly offend transgenders? Because of the implication that all women have vaginas. Yeah. I know. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/6 "2015-07-25T00:26:39Z")
> [@Not\_a\_Platypus](#): > > …or because other students were worried that it might? There have been _a lot_ of very stupid short-sighted decisions made lately because of well-intentioned people making assumptions about what _other_ people _might_ find offensive. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/7 "2015-07-25T00:31:09Z")
They should present some selections from _ **Derek and Clive** _ instead… 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/8 "2015-07-25T00:41:08Z")
This is, after all, The Straight Dope. [The title of the play being discussed is ‘The Vagina Monologues’](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vagina_Monologues). IMHO, this is so agonizingly Politically Correct that it’s deserving of an SNL or The Onion satire. Or both. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/9 "2015-07-25T01:02:13Z")
What I want to know is how the transgender women on the Dope feel about this. ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/10 "2015-07-25T01:03:57Z")
See, I saw “Vagina Dialogues” and assumed it was a sequel to “Vagina Monologues” that had managed to go so much further it was too offensive to play. Imagine my disappointment. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/11 "2015-07-25T01:07:20Z")
> [@Sattua](#): > > See, I saw “Vagina Dialogues” and assumed it was a sequel to “Vagina Monologues” that had managed to go so much further it was too offensive to play. > > Imagine my disappointment. Yeah, but its Washington DC. The only thing actors know how to do down there is smoke. _to the tune of Toot toot tootsie_ Who- Who- Hoo-ha, ta-taaaah…! Who- Who- Hoo-ha… bah-haaaa!!! ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/12 "2015-07-25T01:09:03Z")
Or the Samuel Beckett adaptation, where the lights come up, the vagina screams, and then the stage goes dark. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/13 "2015-07-25T01:12:12Z")
This is six month old news, just so everyone’s aware. [Eve Ensler was puzzled by it](http://time.com/3672912/eve-ensler-vagina-monologues-mount-holyoke-college/), as am I. There’s a transgender monologue \*in \*it (the “Vagina Monologues” are more numerous than any one showing actually has. Certain ones are given rights on V-Day for free use in V-Day events. The transgender piece, “[They Beat the Girl Out of My Boy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW4ncpOn37M),” is one of them.) If they were so concerned, why not do that one as part of the piece? ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/14 "2015-07-25T02:10:28Z")
> [@Not\_a\_Platypus](#): > > I’m puzzled. Was it cancelled because it did offend transgender students, or because other students were worried that it might? Considering it’s a play that has long been offending a lot of people, it seems strange to stop doing it now because maybe it’ll offend a specific group. It was fine when it was only offending religious, conservative, uptight people; their opinions don’t matter. But the chance that it might offend someone in an alternative lifestyle or minority group was too much for them to risk. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/15 "2015-07-25T02:27:55Z")
LOL, Vagina Dialogues. Slip of the tongue, so to say. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/16 "2015-07-25T02:35:06Z")
> [@Claverhouse](#): > > Classic Americana. Classic Britannia 😉 > **[UK porn legislation: What is now banned](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-porn-legislation-what-is-now-banned-under-new-government-laws-9898541.html)** > > BDSM, spanking and other sex acts are now subject to tight restrictions ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/17 "2015-07-25T02:39:09Z")
Kids today. It’s the only way left to offend their parents. Don’t think that anything bigger or deeper is at work. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/18 "2015-07-25T02:50:26Z")
That’s like cancelling _Selma_ becaus it might offend The Black and White Minstrels. ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/19 "2015-07-25T03:13:40Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > [Quote=Claverhouse] > Classic Americana. Classic Britannia 😉 > **[UK porn legislation: What is now banned](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-porn-legislation-what-is-now-banned-under-new-government-laws-9898541.html)** > > BDSM, spanking and other sex acts are now subject to tight restrictions [/QUOTE] Nope, it’s **not** the porn or censorship angle: it’s the juggling and cancelling out of conflicting victimhoods that demonstrates American virtue. I can guarantee this is not the sort of thing that keeps Egyptians and Russians awake at night. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119/20 "2015-07-25T03:32:54Z")
One day, my brother asked me, “Have you seen ‘The Vagina Monologues’?” I replied, “I’m married to a gynecologist. I hear enough vagina monologues as it is.” I have nothing of substance to add to this thread. I’m quite drunk at the moment. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vagina-dialogues-canceled-too-offensive/726119.md?page=2)