# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")
There will be spoilers in this thread by necessity. This is the place to post casting news, media appearances, awards (we hope) and general updates about the series. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/2 "2012-06-05T22:16:18Z")
And now that my OP is up and there won’t be any mouseover issues, an experienced stage actress has been cast to play Shireen Baratheon. [http://winteriscoming.net/2012/06/shireen-cast/](http://winteriscoming.net/2012/06/shireen-cast/) ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/3 "2012-06-05T22:20:21Z")
I thought Shireen was older – mid to late teens, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/4 "2012-06-05T22:31:52Z")
Valar Hiatus - _all men must wait_ The actress fits the age range I thought for Shireen. I was thinking pre- to early-teens. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/5 "2012-06-14T03:19:54Z")
[Martin is working hard to stay ahead of the series.](http://www.airlockalpha.com/node/9199/martin-talks-game-of-thrones-the-winds-of-winter.html) I like how he admits he does not outline and often goes down blind alleys. I also want to see the book of maps and the Westeros history book. But he should concentrate on the books. I have forgotten-- are there two planned unwritten books? ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/6 "2012-06-14T03:27:48Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > I have forgotten-- are there two planned unwritten books? I think so. Winds of Winter and – what – something Spring or Summer? From another board, a fan lamenting this past Sunday with no new episode: “Tonight is dull, and full of tedium.” ---
**Author:** ![midnight-dreary](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@midnight-dreary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/midnight-dreary)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/7 "2012-06-14T03:29:54Z")
The last book will be a dream of spring. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/8 "2012-06-14T03:40:39Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > And now that my OP is up and there won’t be any mouseover issues, an experienced stage actress has been cast to play Shireen Baratheon. > > [Game of Thrones Cast, Characters, Books - Winter is Coming](http://winteriscoming.net/2012/06/shireen-cast/) I just assumed they’d written her out since they didn’t use her (or her fool) this season. Next season should be a pretty straightforward following of Storm of Swords, but have the producers said how they’re going to handle seasons four and five yet? I think we can be sure there’s no way they’re going to give Peter Dinklage a year off, so they’ll probably put _Crows_ and _Dragons_ in chronological order, which I think would confuse even Martin, though to be honest that’s how I wish it had been written. Since they didn’t off Tyrion’s nose (which admittedly would probably be a pretty expensive effect, having to digitally alter every scene he’s in and that’s a lot of them) I wonder if they’ll off Jaime’s hand. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/9 "2012-06-14T03:50:21Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Since they didn’t off Tyrion’s nose (which admittedly would probably be a pretty expensive effect, having to digitally alter every scene he’s in and that’s a lot of them) I wonder if they’ll off Jaime’s hand. I think they’ll have to do something. If not amputation, then some kind of paralysis. They need that catalyst. Wouldn’t it be technically easier to lose a hand than mess up a face? His hands don’t need to be in every shot. As for combining Crows and Dragons, there’s a website somewhere that lists the chapters of the two books in rough chronological order, for folks who’d prefer reading them that way. I don’t know where it is though, I’ve only seen it referenced. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/10 "2012-06-14T03:59:53Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Since they didn’t off Tyrion’s nose (which admittedly would probably be a pretty expensive effect, having to digitally alter every scene he’s in and that’s a lot of them) I wonder if they’ll off Jaime’s hand. Shouldn’t be too terribly hard. The time he spends without it in captivity will probably only be a couple episodes long, and after that they can just have him wear a solid gold glove in every scene after that. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/11 "2012-06-14T04:31:32Z")
Not so much a spoiler as an Easter Egg from season one… [Regarding one of the heads on a spike…](http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/sns-rt-us-gameofthrones-georgewbushbre85d00p-20120613,0,4932176.story) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/12 "2012-06-14T06:55:13Z")
I love the fact that they just happened to have a severed Bush head lying around. Because really, who doesn’t? ---
**Author:** ![GreasyJack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@GreasyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreasyJack)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/13 "2012-06-14T07:11:59Z")
Ha ha. I wondered about that with the Dothraki guy who couldn’t come back for season 2 so they killed him off but we only got to see the back of his severed head-- could they not show his face because of a contract issue or was it merely a severed head budget issue? Sounds like it was probably the latter. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/14 "2012-06-14T12:04:21Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Next season should be a pretty straightforward following of Storm of Swords, but have the producers said how they’re going to handle seasons four and five yet? Well, season 4 will be the second half of A Storm of Swords. That book will be covered in two seasons. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/15 "2012-06-14T14:09:14Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I love the fact that they just happened to have a severed Bush head lying around. Because really, who doesn’t? I have a severed head of Franklin Pierce, but just haven’t found a good use for it. Yet. Looks like the Dubya head was the one next to the septa. But it’ll be removed from the DVD: ['Game Of Thrones' Features George W. Bush's Head On A Stake In Season 1 | HuffPost Entertainment](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/game-of-thrones--george-w-bush_n_1594757.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular) ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/16 "2012-06-14T14:17:51Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I just assumed they’d written her out since they didn’t use her (or her fool) this season. Yea, I suspect her inclusion in the cast suggests she’ll be a bigger character in the future books (since she’s basically been a non-entity so far). Which makes sense, her spouse would technically be the heir to the throne, so assuming Stannis is still a going concern in the next book, she’d be politically important. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/17 "2012-06-14T15:09:16Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I have a severed head of Franklin Pierce, but just haven’t found a good use for it. Yet. > > Looks like the Dubya head was the one next to the septa. But it’ll be removed from the DVD: ['Game Of Thrones' Features George W. Bush's Head On A Stake In Season 1 | HuffPost Entertainment](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/game-of-thrones--george-w-bush_n_1594757.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular) Looks like it’s starting to become a shitstorm. HBO and the producers are apologizing all over the place, and apparently some Republicans are bitching about it. Put me down as a conservative that doesn’t particularly care. It’s a prop that happens to look like Bush. It represents a fictional character, not the former President. Possibly poor judgment, but not a big deal. ---
**Author:** ![Minnie\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Minnie\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minnie_Luna)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/18 "2012-06-14T16:08:11Z")
I was happy to read at [EW](http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/05/29/game-of-throne-season-3-cast/) that Meera and Jojen Reed are going to be a part of Season 3. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/19 "2012-06-14T20:12:13Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] Put me down as a conservative that doesn’t particularly care. It’s a prop that happens to look like Bush. It represents a fictional character, not the former President. Possibly poor judgment, but not a big deal. [/QUOTE] ## Definitely poor judgment. I can’t stand Dubya but consider it to be in poor taste, and if they’d used Obama’s head the liberals would be screaming bloody murder. Really stupid of them to _admit_ to using it even once they did. I wonder if they’ve cast Olenna (Margaery’s grandmother) yet. I pictured Shirley MacLaine when I read the book. They have to do one disastrous wedding or the other next season; we can’t wait two years to see both The Red Wedding and Joffrey Biting It enacted. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/20 "2012-06-14T20:26:16Z")
I could see either Shirley MacLaine or Maggie Smith as Olenna. Or maybe Louise Fletcher? She hasn’t worked much since she played the two-faced Bajoran cleric on ST: DS9, I don’t think. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208.md?page=2)