# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/181 "2013-03-23T15:04:25Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > He also video recorded his immediate reaction to S1E9. I just posted it in the thread about when your favorite TV character dies. Is he the “They killed my n\*\*\*\*\* Ned!” guy? I think I read he stopped doing those videos after pieces of shit spoiled stuff like the Red Wedding in his comments. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/182 "2013-03-23T16:55:54Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > Is he the “They killed my n\*\*\*\*\* Ned!” guy? > > I think I read he stopped doing those videos after pieces of shit spoiled stuff like the Red Wedding in his comments. This is one of the things that is keeping my excitement not quite at ridiculous levels. Part of the reason I recommend this series is the shocks. I loved seeing and reading reactions to Ned dying, but I think most people will have been spoiled or will have read the books by the time episode 9 rolls around. Although, out of the 11 million viewers or whatever there are bound to be a few videos of people losing their shit. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/183 "2013-03-23T17:34:09Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > I loved seeing and reading reactions to Ned dying, but I think most people will have been spoiled or will have read the books by the time episode 9 rolls around. I don’t know why you would assume that. I watched seasons 1 and 2 but I’ve never read the books. I would appreciate some consideration of that, especially in a thread about the TV program. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/184 "2013-03-23T17:43:21Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I don’t know why you would assume that. I watched seasons 1 and 2 but I’ve never read the books. I would appreciate some consideration of that, especially in a thread about the TV program. I’m a spoiler-phobe myself, so I appreciate the sentiment, but the OP specifically said “There will be spoilers in this thread by necessity.” Expecting this to be a TV-only spoiler-free zone is a mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/185 "2013-03-23T18:00:39Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I don’t know why you would assume that. I watched seasons 1 and 2 but I’ve never read the books. I would appreciate some consideration of that, especially in a thread about the TV program. Because lots of people were spoiled for season 1, there has been lots of time for reading and spoiling since then and the comments for every youtube video contain major spoilers. I’m not really going to censor myself as far as spoilers go in an open spoiler thread. I’m not going to deliberately spoil, but reader beware I guess. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/186 "2013-03-23T18:07:44Z")
Most of the people here were not spoiled. Most were smart enough to stay out of the spoiler threads. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/187 "2013-03-30T05:15:02Z")
Here’s _USA Today_ on GOT’s broad pop-cultural reach (story’s below the photo gallery): ['Game of Thrones' takes a seat at the pop-culture table](http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2013/03/28/hbos-game-of-thrones-opens-season-3/2018491/) ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/188 "2013-03-30T09:20:24Z")
This is probably old news to fans, but on the off chance there’s anything new or interesting here. It’s short [article](http://news.yahoo.com/seasons-game-thrones-planet-203057609.html) that talks about possible scientific explanations for the variability of the seasons. A few ideas are presented and shot down. This seems to be the only one to survive scrutiny. > [@](#): > > Seasons are also dependent upon the kind of planetary system the exoplanet finds itself in, Laughlin said. > > “One situation that will lead to wildly variable seasons over long periods of time is if the planet in question is a member of a strongly interacting multiple planet system,” Laughlin said, describing how a planet’s orbit could be pulled out of whack by another planet. > > These changes would also happen over the course of thousands or millions of years, Laughlin added. But this also might be a good explanation for the seasonal issues on the “Game of Thrones.” > > The books and TV show make mention of a second moon that disintegrated when it flew too close to its sun. Of course, in the book’s lore that moon was actually an egg full of dragons … so maybe it would be best not to apply too much real science to this kind of fiction. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/189 "2013-03-30T15:27:12Z")
With the premiere tomorrow night, does someone want to make an official “Game of Thrones Season 3 Spoiler Thread?” I see someone already made the spoiler free weekly thread. I just want to avoid situations we had last year and season one where people made thread willy-nilly, resulting in shit like a season long spoiler free thread, weekly spoiler free, weekly spoiler, season long spoiler, and then random threads for no reason. Let’s keep it clean and organized, people! If no one else wants to make it, I guess will. If I remember last year correctly, the best thing to do, since there are more TV only viewers than book+TV, is have one, season-long spoiler thread, and have the weekly thread be spoiler free. By that I mean both free of any future book spoilers, and any future TV spoilers. Book discussion about changes made should also be keep free, since we’ve seen before that sometimes they make a change, but incorporate the “original” book plot-line/character in a similar enough fashion that telling someone XYZ was different in the book because of ABC would be a potential spoiler. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/190 "2013-06-29T00:01:51Z")
[Red Viper cast!](http://winteriscoming.net/2013/06/red-viper-cast/) Not 100% sure of the look, and I haven’t seen him before, but the casting has been 95% fantastic. You raped her, you murdered her, you killed her children! ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/191 "2013-06-29T00:25:32Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Not 100% sure of the look, and I haven’t seen him before, but the casting has been 95% fantastic. I’m curious who you put in that 5%. I can only say that the new Mountain wasn’t as good as the old Mountain, but other than that I think I’ve loved every casting decision. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/192 "2013-06-29T00:40:54Z")
Shae. Jon Snow has been fairly weak, but he’s mostly an internal character and really only weak compared to the rest of the cast. If Kit Harrington was on most other shows he would’t stand out. Littlefinger’s gravely voice sounds comical to me too. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/193 "2013-06-29T01:25:30Z")
Shae is basically a different character from book Shae though so you can argue her casting is not actually bad. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/194 "2013-06-29T01:28:40Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Littlefinger’s gravely voice sounds comical to me too. I agree, and it’s puzzling, because he sounds quite different than he did in _The Wire_. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/195 "2013-06-29T03:22:50Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Shae is basically a different character from book Shae though so you can argue her casting is not actually bad. It’s not that I don’t think she fits the role, it’s that I think she’s a bad actor. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/196 "2013-06-30T00:49:32Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > It’s not that I don’t think she fits the role, it’s that I think she’s a bad actor. She was fine in her pornographic roles. :dubious: Dumb: when did we see new Mountain? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/197 "2013-06-30T02:24:14Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > She was fine in her pornographic roles. :dubious: > > Dumb: when did we see new Mountain? At harrenhall in season 2. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/198 "2013-07-01T05:14:00Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > [Red Viper cast!](http://winteriscoming.net/2013/06/red-viper-cast/) > > Not 100% sure of the look, and I haven’t seen him before, but the casting has been 95% fantastic. > > You raped her, you murdered her, you killed her children! I wonder how many episodes it will take next season for the main events in King’s Landing to unfold (how to say it without spoiling too much…I mean until most of the characters present there have changed trajectories). The whole season, maybe? Anyway, I hope we’ll see a bit of the Red Viper (You raped her! You killed her!) before his arc story reaches its climax. King’s Landing scene were well done last season, and the show producers have proved to be imaginative in depicting their characters. Even though I’m not sure such a thing happens in the book, a scene with the Queen of Thorns, the Red Viper and Tywin Lannister could be memorable. I noted that they had Jaime coming back to the capital earlier than in the books, so he will be present during most of the events (of course, otherwise, he would have roamed around pointlessly for most of the season, like Bran did last time) and I wonder how they’ll make him react. Also, what will they do with Brienne (who would also have roamed around pointlessly) at King’s Landing? In particular, she should meet Sansa there. I expect to see Tywin’s brother be fleshed out too. There’s potential for a lot of interesting character interactions. ETA : Oh! And the trial scenes should be something to watch ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/199 "2013-07-01T05:24:47Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > I’m curious who you put in that 5%. I can only say that the new Mountain wasn’t as good as the old Mountain, but other than that I think I’ve loved every casting decision. We hardly ever saw the Mountain, anyway. Which is a shame, really. You can’t properly hate someone who never appears and never does anything, despite him probably being the most heinous character in the books (well…there’s competition for this..one of the most heinous, anyway). ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/200 "2013-07-01T07:33:06Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > ETA : Oh! And the trial scenes should be something to watch My guess is that the… closing arguments stage of the trial will take place in Episode 9, which always seems to be the big dramatic episode of the season. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208.md?page=11)