# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/361 "2015-08-02T06:12:00Z")

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> [@Lakai](#):
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> Elsewhere on the internet people are saying Randyll Tarly.

Other places are saying one of the Greyjoy brothers. My wildcard guess? Flashback Aerys Targaryen.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/362 "2015-08-02T09:26:08Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> [We are getting Ian McShane!](http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/game-of-thrones-ian-mcshane-1201554773/) In a small “mystery” role. Guesses? i am gonna go with Damphair.

> [@Lakai](#):
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> Elsewhere on the internet people are saying Randyll Tarly.

> [@Alessan](#):
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> Other places are saying one of the Greyjoy brothers. My wildcard guess? Flashback Aerys Targaryen.

He definitely has the look of a Greyjoy, but if they are going to cast one it’d more likely be Victarion than the Damphair. And pretty sure _GoT_ doesn’t do flashbacks.

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**Author:** ![Neverending\_Elbow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e274bd/32.png) [@Neverending\_Elbow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neverending_Elbow)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/363 "2015-08-02T09:32:59Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> And pretty sure _GoT_ doesn’t do flashbacks.

Unless they are about Cersei being told her future?

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**Author:** ![Ken001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@Ken001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ken001)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/364 "2015-08-02T09:57:01Z")

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And there was a flashback showing Jamie as the King-killer.

So um yeah. A reprise of the past is entirely possible.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/365 "2015-08-02T11:13:46Z")

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> [@Ken001](#):
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> And there was a flashback showing Jamie as the King-killer.
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> So um yeah. A reprise of the past is entirely possible.

Don’t recall this flashback. You may be confusing the show with the books.

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**Author:** ![JVDaly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@JVDaly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JVDaly)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/366 "2015-08-02T11:21:43Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> [We are getting Ian McShane!](http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/game-of-thrones-ian-mcshane-1201554773/) In a small “mystery” role. Guesses? i am gonna go with Damphair.

I hope it’s not Damphair. He’s such a dickhead.

McShane would be brilliant as Randyll Tarly, though.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/367 "2015-08-02T12:18:22Z")

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Tarly is generally described as having a halberd-sized stick up his butt. Putting McShane in that kind of role would be a waste of his talents - I’m sure he can underplay a part, but why would you want him to?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/368 "2015-08-02T16:53:17Z")

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FWIW, the HBO chief said Jon Snow is indeed dead… but in such a way that he (the chief) might be either joking or misinformed: [http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/31/entertainment/hbo-game-of-thrones-snow-thr-feat/](http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/31/entertainment/hbo-game-of-thrones-snow-thr-feat/)

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/369 "2015-08-02T17:02:48Z")

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Well, Harrington isn’t in Northern Ireland for a holiday is he. And you don’t wear your hair like that for free.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2015, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/370 "2015-08-02T23:52:19Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> FWIW, the HBO chief said Jon Snow is indeed dead… but in such a way that he (the chief) might be either joking or misinformed: [http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/31/entertainment/hbo-game-of-thrones-snow-thr-feat/](http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/31/entertainment/hbo-game-of-thrones-snow-thr-feat/)

> [@up\_the\_junction](#):
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> Well, Harrington isn’t in Northern Ireland for a holiday is he. And you don’t wear your hair like that for free.

Harington (One ‘r’, not two) himself said that he wasn’t coming back for S6. But as mentioned upthread, he was seen on the plane to Belfast along with most of the rest of the cast for S6 production that started last month. So he lied.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/371 "2015-08-03T00:36:42Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> Harington (One ‘r’, not two) himself said that he wasn’t coming back for S6. But as mentioned upthread, he was seen on the plane to Belfast along with most of the rest of the cast for S6 production that started last month. So he lied.

Nay, that was _ACT_ing! _Thank_ you!

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**Author:** ![Ken001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@Ken001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ken001)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/372 "2015-08-03T10:39:09Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Don’t recall this flashback. You may be confusing the show with the books.

No. Only read the first book, There is certainly a flash back scene where the King Killer (Jamie) and Ned are involved but canna find it. LOL. Such is life.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/373 "2015-08-03T11:23:54Z")

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> [@Ken001](#):
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> No. Only read the first book, There is certainly a flash back scene where the King Killer (Jamie) and Ned are involved but canna find it. LOL. Such is life.

I believe this was filmed, but it absolutely was never shown on the show. The Cersei flashback is the only flashback that was used.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/374 "2015-08-03T14:11:44Z")

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> [@Ken001](#):
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> No. Only read the first book, There is certainly a flash back scene where the King Killer (Jamie) and Ned are involved but canna find it. LOL. Such is life.

That was not on the show. There was a scene of Jamie telling the story, might have been one of Ned also, but it was never shown.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/375 "2015-08-03T14:50:09Z")

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Nitpicks: it’s “Kingslayer” and “Jaime.”

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/376 "2015-08-03T18:51:41Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> FWIW, the HBO chief said Jon Snow is indeed dead…

That’s a weasel answer because nobody is asking the right question. Of course he is dead _now;_ we saw him get stabbed several times in the chest. The question is not, “Is Jon Snow dead?”; what they should be asking is, “Will Jon Snow stay dead?” to preclude evasive answers that don’t tell us what will happen next season.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/377 "2015-08-03T18:59:10Z")

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I don’t know why anyone would even expect a true answer when asking that. They shouldn’t be asking a god damn thing because the show runner isn’t going to tell you what the fuck is going to happen in his damn show, damn.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/378 "2015-08-03T21:01:29Z")

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> [@Neverending\_Elbow](#):
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> Unless they are about Cersei being told her future?

Yeah, OK, Maggy the Frog was a necessary concession due to the whole prophecy thing. But other than that, they definitely are not prone to doing them. Which is good, because I think flashbacks are lame.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/379 "2015-08-03T21:47:44Z")

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> [@Ken001](#):
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> No. Only read the first book, There is certainly a flash back scene where the King Killer (Jamie) and Ned are involved but canna find it. LOL. Such is life.

I don’t believe that Jaime became a POV character until at least Book 3, and I don’t think Aerys ever was, so whose chapter would it be? There may have been reference to the events but flashback means a specific thing.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/380 "2015-08-04T04:39:38Z")

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So apparently [Max](http://www.eonline.com/news/682789/game-of-thrones-recast-alert-max-von-sydow-joins-season-6-to-take-over-the-role-of?ref=yfp)von [Sydow](http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/game-of-thrones-max-von-sydow-three-eyed-raven-season-6-1201555745/)was (re)cast as “the Three-Eyed Raven” (!)

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