# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/421 "2015-11-24T15:10:41Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > Huh. Yeah, I’m sure you’re right officially, but it doesn’t seem like he did anything to make a blatant attempt at being king. The others had armies, fought battles, tried to rally allies… What did Greyjoy do? Sit on his miserable chunk of rock and grump? > > Anyway, I guess he isn’t dead yet in the show time line, though if various hints about next year’s plot are true he’ll be kicking it quickly. > > So, at the moment, does that mean he "won’? 😃 The Greyjoys sent raiders to attack the shores of the North, including Theon who went deep into the North and took Winterfell (briefly). ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/422 "2015-11-24T15:32:02Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > Huh. Yeah, I’m sure you’re right officially, but it doesn’t seem like he did anything to make a blatant attempt at being king. The others had armies, fought battles, tried to rally allies… What did Greyjoy do? Sit on his miserable chunk of rock and grump? > > Anyway, I guess he isn’t dead yet in the show time line, though if various hints about next year’s plot are true he’ll be kicking it quickly. > > So, at the moment, does that mean he "won’? 😃 Balon declared himself _King of the Iron Islands_, not _King of the Seven Kingdoms_. Robb Stark declared himself _King in the North_. The Baratheon brothers and Joffrey were the only ones trying to be _King of the Seven Kingdoms_. …so, _Five Kings_ but two were only claiming one each of the Seven Kingdoms. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/423 "2015-11-24T15:33:02Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > Huh. Yeah, I’m sure you’re right officially, but it doesn’t seem like he did anything to make a blatant attempt at being king. The others had armies, fought battles, tried to rally allies… What did Greyjoy do? Sit on his miserable chunk of rock and grump? > > Anyway, I guess he isn’t dead yet in the show time line, though if various hints about next year’s plot are true he’ll be kicking it quickly. > > So, at the moment, does that mean he "won’? 😃 Balon Greyjoy wanted to be king of the iron islands not the seven kingdoms, sitting on his miserable chunk of rock and grumping was basically the main way to go about it. His was a war of autonomy, not conquest. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/424 "2015-11-24T15:52:37Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Balon Greyjoy…sitting on his miserable chunk of rock and grumping… That’s just how he rolls. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/425 "2015-11-24T16:01:35Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The Greyjoys sent raiders to attack the shores of the North, including Theon who went deep into the North and took Winterfell (briefly). Oh, right, right. And they held another place for at least a few weeks/months until Ramsey used Theon to get them to surrender. (Moat Caillin, something like that, maybe?) Still, all in all, Greyjoy has been distinctly less important than the other four, at least so far. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/426 "2015-11-24T17:24:27Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > …so, _Five Kings_ but two were only claiming one each of the Seven Kingdoms. While we’re nitpicking, it was the Kingdom of the Isles and the Rivers, so Greyjoy wasn’t even claiming the rest (Riverlands). So 3 guys fighting over the 7, one over 1 kingdom, and the last over the crappier fraction of one kingdom. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/427 "2015-12-12T03:18:37Z")
Gary Kasparov has an interesting title for his latest book: [http://www.amazon.com/Winter-Coming-Vladimir-Enemies-Stopped/dp/1610396200/ref=sr\_1\_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1449890361&sr=1-1&keywords=kasparov+winter+is+coming](http://www.amazon.com/Winter-Coming-Vladimir-Enemies-Stopped/dp/1610396200/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1449890361&sr=1-1&keywords=kasparov+winter+is+coming) ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/428 "2015-12-12T03:51:16Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > While we’re nitpicking, it was the Kingdom of the Isles and the Rivers, so Greyjoy wasn’t even claiming the rest (Riverlands). So 3 guys fighting over the 7, one over 1 kingdom, and the last over the crappier fraction of one kingdom. What’s the difference between the Kingdom of the Isles and the Rivers and the Iron Islands + the Riverlands? The wiki says it’s the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/429 "2015-12-12T04:13:01Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > What’s the difference between the Kingdom of the Isles and the Rivers and the Iron Islands + the Riverlands? The wiki says it’s the same thing. I was saying that the Greyjoys were not even claiming 1/7 of the kingdoms, but a part of one. Whereas the Starks wanted one kingdom, and the other 3 guys all 7 kingdoms, which are really 9 regions. The KotIatR disappeared after Aegon. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/430 "2015-12-12T09:02:03Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Gary Kasparov has an interesting title for his latest book: [http://www.amazon.com/Winter-Coming-Vladimir-Enemies-Stopped/dp/1610396200/ref=sr\_1\_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1449890361&sr=1-1&keywords=kasparov+winter+is+coming](http://www.amazon.com/Winter-Coming-Vladimir-Enemies-Stopped/dp/1610396200/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1449890361&sr=1-1&keywords=kasparov+winter+is+coming) From what I understand, the Russians are \*obsessed \*with GOT. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/431 "2015-12-12T17:05:53Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > From what I understand, the Russians are \*obsessed \*with GOT. In Soviet Russia, Game of Thrones is called “Nice, Safe, Unoppressive Kingdom.” And instead of paying subscription fee to watch HBO, you pay fee so it doesn’t watch you! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/432 "2015-12-12T18:21:00Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > From what I understand, the Russians are \*obsessed \*with GOT. Interesting. Any English-language articles about that? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/433 "2015-12-17T04:26:57Z")
Some funny SW/GOT memes: [![](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a2/28/96/a228966c3243ab18015845a09f57dd1f.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a2/28/96/a228966c3243ab18015845a09f57dd1f.jpg) [![](https://i.imgur.com/WiJqFhN.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/WiJqFhN.jpg) [![](https://hbdchick.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/looking-for-love.jpg?w=460) ](https://hbdchick.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/looking-for-love.jpg?w=460) [![](https://youdrankthewholefairy.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/im-hungry.jpg) ](https://youdrankthewholefairy.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/im-hungry.jpg) [![](https://youdrankthewholefairy.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/thoros-vs-vader.jpg) ](https://youdrankthewholefairy.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/thoros-vs-vader.jpg) [![](https://i.imgur.com/5F1ocNU.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/5F1ocNU.jpg) [![](https://i.imgur.com/AJEMUYR.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/AJEMUYR.png) [![](https://64.media.tumblr.com/ace362d30c2a2e93ef673547da5aab17/tumblr_mqjwkswkYj1s4nbleo1_500.jpg) ](https://64.media.tumblr.com/ace362d30c2a2e93ef673547da5aab17/tumblr_mqjwkswkYj1s4nbleo1_500.jpg) [http://keepthatlol.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/6d380bc28a9716edfd1495419da8ec74.600x.jpg](http://keepthatlol.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/6d380bc28a9716edfd1495419da8ec74.600x.jpg) [![](https://i.pinimg.com/236x/d3/c1/91/d3c1917e501548857a50dc2840b50b8d.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/236x/d3/c1/91/d3c1917e501548857a50dc2840b50b8d.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/434 "2016-01-03T01:35:40Z")
GRRM admits the show will outpace the books: [It's official: Game of Thrones show will pass books - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=779813) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/435 "2016-01-13T15:28:31Z")
The actress who plays Sansa will be in the next _X-Men_ movie: [Meet X-Men: Apocalypse's new mutants](http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/x-men/news/a659862/sophie-turner-is-jean-grey-meet-the-young-mutants-of-x-men-apocalypse/) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/436 "2016-01-28T15:09:40Z")
Charles Dance (Tywin) and Lena Headey (Cersei) are both in the upcoming _Pride and Prejudice and Zombies_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride\_and\_Prejudice\_and\_Zombies\_(film) ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/437 "2016-01-28T15:53:18Z")
This is my TL,DR WAG so if anyone’s already said it, sorry: Jon snow is dead, dead, like really dead. Red witch revives him. He is no longer a member of the Nigth’s Watch, because he died. He goes to take Winterfell. ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/438 "2016-01-29T09:24:06Z")
I’ve been following [Preston Jacob’s](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXU7XVK_2Wd6tAHYO8g9vAA) insanely detailed analyses of the show and novels for quite some time now. He’s currently dissecting all of GRR Martin’s 1,000 World Stories for possible links to the Ice and Fire and trying to figure out what the Faceless Men are up to. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/439 "2016-01-29T13:46:46Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > This is my TL,DR WAG so if anyone’s already said it, sorry: > > Jon snow is dead, dead, like really dead. > Red witch revives him. > He is no longer a member of the Nigth’s Watch, because he died. > He goes to take Winterfell. I like that idea. I like it a lot! ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/440 "2016-01-31T23:57:28Z")
Jon is still kissing his dead wilding girlfriend [Game of Thrones' Kit Harington and Rose Leslie Hold Hands, Kiss in L.A.](http://www.people.com/article/kit-harington-rose-leslie-pda-photos-kissing-los-angeles) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208.md?page=23)