# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/41 "2012-07-20T05:02:15Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Several Emmy nominations again, most notable being Peter Dinklage again for Best Supporting Actor, and Outstanding Drama Series. How is he “supporting”? He’s the main character, dammit. I guess it’s because he’s “supporting” every other damn character. Dammit. Does that show not have a “leading” actor? Will all their actor nominations be Supporting? I think Alfie Allen (Theon) should have been nominated supporting, with Peter as leading. Dammit. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/42 "2012-07-21T04:51:33Z")
[Looks](http://winteriscoming.net/2012/07/iwan-rheon-cast-in-game-of-thrones/) like we probably have a Ramsay Snow. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/43 "2012-07-21T05:46:01Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > How is he “supporting”? He’s the main character, dammit. I guess it’s because he’s “supporting” every other damn character. Dammit. > > Does that show not have a “leading” actor? Will all their actor nominations be Supporting? > > I think Alfie Allen (Theon) should have been nominated supporting, with Peter as leading. Dammit. IIRC, in season 1 he got last billing as either “and” or “with.” You know, Andy Rooney territory. It moved up towards the top in S2. But like academic papers, sometimes being last is the best place. Yeah this show is just a bunch of supporting actors. Dinklage does deserve it in a sense, but he also gets access to the best lines. Him and Bronn. ETA: Do we not see Stannis wife at all in S2? I could’ve sworn she (or some woman not Melissandre) was standing next to him like they were together in one of the first episodes. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/44 "2012-07-21T15:17:16Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > ETA: Do we not see Stannis wife at all in S2? I could’ve sworn she (or some woman not Melissandre) was standing next to him like they were together in one of the first episodes. Yes when they were burning the old gods on the beach his wife stood beside him. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/45 "2012-07-21T18:50:51Z")
Thanks. I decided to look it up, and looks like they switched actresses, something not without precedence. The “new characters for S3” press probably just didn’t do their research. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/46 "2012-07-21T19:06:36Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > Thanks. I decided to look it up, and looks like they switched actresses, something not without precedence. The “new characters for S3” press probably just didn’t do their research. Beric was in season 1 as well. Both characters were just place holders at the time though. I think they call them “featured extras.” It’s not a recasting like Gregor. I’d love the original Gregor back for future seasons though the current guy is too skinny. ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/47 "2012-07-21T19:36:16Z")
Which reminds me, what are they doing about Ser Barristan? Is Ian McElhinney coming back? Are they getting someone else to play him, or are they leaving the character out of the rest of the show? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/48 "2012-07-21T20:27:49Z")
> [@Mogle](#): > > Which reminds me, what are they doing about Ser Barristan? Is Ian McElhinney coming back? Are they getting someone else to play him, or are they leaving the character out of the rest of the show? They haven’t announced all casting, and since he’s not new casting, I bet he’s not announced. It’ll make his reveal as much of a surprise as possible. I wonder if he’s been growing a beard. ---
**Author:** ![Premislaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f0a364/32.png) [@Premislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Premislaus)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2012, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/49 "2012-07-22T10:07:34Z")
> [@Mogle](#): > > Which reminds me, what are they doing about Ser Barristan? Is Ian McElhinney coming back? Are they getting someone else to play him, or are they leaving the character out of the rest of the show? It’s been confirmed that McElhinney is returning. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/50 "2012-08-06T21:15:43Z")
I got a kick out of today’s Book of Biff webcomic: [A Song of Ice and Fire and Autocorrect](http://www.thebookofbiff.com/2012/08/06/1600-martin/) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/51 "2012-08-08T14:41:48Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > The character that plays Jojen, was he , Liam Neesons kid in love actually… Good catch! Yes, it was Thomas Sangster (now Brodie-Sangster). I see he also provides Ferb’s voice in _Phineas and Ferb_!: > **[Thomas Brodie-Sangster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Sangster)** > > Thomas Brodie-Sangster (born 16 May 1990) is an English actor. As a child actor, he gained recognition for his roles in the commercially successful films Love Actually (2003) and Nanny McPhee (2005). He voiced Ferb in the first four seasons of Phineas and Ferb (2007–2015), and subsequently gained wider attention with his roles as Jake Murray in Accused (2010–2012), Jojen Reed in Game of Thrones (2013–2014) and Newt in the Maze Runner trilogy (2014–2018). Continued acclaim ensued with the indep... > **[Thomas Brodie-Sangster | Actor, Producer, Soundtrack](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1032473/)** > > Known for: Maze Runner: The Scorch Trials, The Maze Runner, Love Actually Those who like Aiden Gillen (Littlefinger) should see _The Dark Knight Rises_, in which he has a small but important role early in the movie. He’s the CIA agent in charge of the flight which Bane skyjacks. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/52 "2012-08-14T15:30:09Z")
Turns out GRRM has some strongly-held political views, too: [George R.R. Martin, 'Game Of Thrones' Author, Slams Republicans For 'Voter Suppression' | HuffPost Entertainment](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/13/game-of-thrones-author-republicans_n_1773283.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular) ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/53 "2012-08-20T16:15:13Z")
A few casting announcements: Ciaran fucking Hinds has been cast as Mance Rayder. Ed Skrein as Daario Nahaaris. Jacob Anderson as Grey Worm. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/54 "2012-08-20T16:26:50Z")
Hinds seems quite a bit too old, but I’ve been pretty happy with the casting so far. Mance isn’t a very physical role for the most part, but we’ll see. Who do we need now? Strong Belwas and Vargo Hoat? ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/55 "2012-08-20T22:50:34Z")
I think Hinds is a great choice for Rayder, he’s got the charisma and gravitas to play the role. I know nothing of Ed Skrein and Jacob Anderson but an image search reassures me. I’ve always pictured Strong Belwas as looking a bit like a taller, heavier [David Tua](http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=david+tua&rls=com.microsoft:en-nz:IE-SearchBox&oe=&redir_esc=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=o7wyUP7tMM-ciQfNvYCIDQ&biw=1280&bih=595&sei=q7wyUNK0M-2TiQfDz4HYDA). Maybe [Serj Tankian](http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=serj+tankian&rls=com.microsoft:en-nz:IE-SearchBox&oe=&redir_esc=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=874yULjZG-qQiAf35oDgBA&biw=1280&bih=567&sei=-b4yUIjIFaa3iQe654H4AQ)could grow his beard back and play Vargo Hoat. ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/56 "2012-08-22T00:13:08Z")
Cool, now GOT has Caesar and Brutus. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/57 "2012-08-22T00:37:10Z")
Game of Thrones theme played on a cat: > **[Game of Thrones theme played on a Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=662843)** > > I know that it’s shamefully manipulated, but it’s wonderfully silly: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2012/08/21/sci-fi-fantasy-game-of-thrones-intro-sung-by-a-cat/ > **[Game of Thrones Intro Sung by a Cat](https://cheezburger.com/41004545)** > > Game of Thrones Intro Sung by a Cat - Syndicated LOLs ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/58 "2012-08-27T15:49:47Z")
Every well-dressed Hand of the King will want one of these: [Game of Thrones Hand of the King Lapel Pin](http://www.museumreplicas.com/p-2031-game-of-thrones-hand-of-the-king-pin.aspx) ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/59 "2012-08-27T16:05:37Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Every well-dressed Hand of the King will want one of these: [http://www.museumreplicas.com/p-2031-game-of-thrones-hand-of-the-king-pin.aspx](http://www.museumreplicas.com/p-2031-game-of-thrones-hand-of-the-king-pin.aspx) Do I have to choke a bitch to get a Hand necklace? Gah! ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/60 "2012-08-27T16:44:33Z")
Identical twins electric harp duet: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/iyeKTMBFeyE/maxresdefault.jpg "GAME OF THRONES Theme - Harp Twins - Camille and Kennerly, Electric Harp") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyeKTMBFeyE) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208.md?page=4)