# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 34

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/661 "2018-02-06T21:27:30Z")

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GOT creators are going to make Star Wars movies

[https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/game-of-thrones-creators-tapped-for-new-star-wars-saga-w516424](https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/game-of-thrones-creators-tapped-for-new-star-wars-saga-w516424)

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/662 "2018-02-06T23:26:07Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> The Daario switcheroo is one of the biggest, most inexplicable mistakes the show has made.

It’s not like it was their choice, the old actor left.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/663 "2018-02-07T02:54:52Z")

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the story now is the Daario actor did not leave on his own, he was forced out .

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/664 "2018-02-08T00:39:48Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> It’s not like it was their choice, the old actor left.

Regardless whose choice Skrein’s departure was, the show clearly (inexplicably) chose to reconceive the character–unlike all those other recastings. They _could_ have looked for an actor who bore a passing resemblance to Skrein in manner and visage, made him up to resemble more, had him study the original performance, and most importantly written him as a development from that original conception.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/665 "2018-04-18T14:26:16Z")

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Some cool laser-cut GOT pop-up cards: [Pop Culture – Lovepop](https://www.lovepopcards.com/collections/game-of-thrones)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/666 "2018-04-26T13:04:52Z")

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No _Winds of Winter_ this year, alas, but GRRM has some other tricks up his sleeve: [MSN](http://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/game-of-thrones-book-6-the-winds-of-winter-wont-publish-this-year/ar-AAwkA3W?ocid=ientp)

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/667 "2018-04-26T13:15:18Z")

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Yeah, so? C’mon George, finish what you started! I’ll buy the books when six comes out; I’ll have a reasonable expectation seven will come, then.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/668 "2018-04-26T16:48:51Z")

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It really does seem like he’s lost his taste for the series. Not Westros itself but this particular song of ice and fire.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/669 "2018-04-26T16:52:19Z")

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the story is already being told via TV. Do we need 2 versions of the story?

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/670 "2018-04-26T17:04:06Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> the story is already being told via TV. Do we need 2 versions of the story?

No, we just need the real one not the fan fiction one.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/671 "2018-04-26T21:13:26Z")

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That series is never getting finished. I give it 20% chance book 6 is ever published.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/672 "2018-04-26T22:46:40Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> That series is never getting finished. I give it 20% chance book 6 is ever published.

I’m more around 70% for _Winds of Winter_, but less than 10% that Martin writes\* A Song of Spring.\*

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/673 "2018-04-27T01:06:52Z")

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I like to pretend that it’s taking so long because he’s writing them both and will drop them both at the same time or 7 soon after 6. And I’m just going to pretend any time he’s said no, that’s not the case, that that is a lie.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/674 "2018-04-27T11:01:52Z")

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Martin sold out for big money. He has other people finishing the story and he’s getting paid a lot for it.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/675 "2018-04-27T13:03:02Z")

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I just don’t buy that Martin’s motivated by money. He has so much already that he literally doesn’t appear to know what to do with it all – he bought the original Robby the Robot prop; he routinely buys property in Santa Fe and repurposes it for charity/museums/animal shelters; etc. I think he’s what he appears to be – an aging, very deliberate and increasingly slow writer who made some creative choices that he’s having a very high degree of difficulty in untangling and resolving.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/676 "2018-04-27T13:09:14Z")

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I will give him points for not turning into Robert Jordan and dropping book after book after book on us ad infinitum.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/677 "2018-04-27T13:15:09Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I will give him points for not turning into Robert Jordan and dropping book after book after book on us ad infinitum.

At this point that would be my preferred outcome.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/678 "2018-04-27T13:49:45Z")

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he could follow the route other authors took and hire a co author who actually writes the books based on his ideas. Arthur C. Clarke did that for the last 3 Rama books.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/679 "2018-04-27T13:52:18Z")

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Yes, and look how they turned out. Better to have no GoT than crappy, ghost-written GoT. (In my universe the books and TV show are completely separate and distinct stories.)

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/680 "2018-04-27T15:26:55Z")

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He’s probably looking forward to the prequel series that HBO is working on. That way he won’t have to put up with people bitching and moaning about the changes made from the books since there are no books to compare to.

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