# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/681 "2018-04-27T15:30:09Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Yes, and look how they turned out. Better to have no GoT than crappy, ghost-written GoT. (In my universe the books and TV show are completely separate and distinct stories.)

On the other hand it worked out great for the Wheel of Time series.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/682 "2018-04-28T11:25:21Z")

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He’s almost 70 and he is very out of shape , to put it nicely. So it’s no surprising he works slowly and with the TV money flowing in he has no reason to hurry.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/683 "2018-04-28T15:17:02Z")

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He’s obviously written himself into a corner in the books and I’m pretty sure he’s happy to let HBO finish it while he moves on to other projects.

His age and his weight don’t seem to be a significant factor if he writing other stuff.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/684 "2018-04-28T15:47:46Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> His age and his weight don’t seem to be a significant factor if he writing other stuff.

They ARE kind of a factor in whether he survives long enough to finish the series, though.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/685 "2018-04-28T16:49:46Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> They ARE kind of a factor in whether he survives long enough to finish the series, though.

I don’t think he cares much about finishing it. That’s what I was trying to say.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/686 "2018-04-28T17:03:28Z")

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He said a long time ago that he lost interest in this story. The tv show triggered a landslide of fan requests for the end of this tale (far and above those who read this series when it first came out) so he agreed to finish it off. It seems to me that he still likes Westros and has a few tales to tell about it but the story that inthralled HBO viewers isn’t the one that inthralled him.

I do not see Martin palming this off to a ghost writer just to please his fans. My only hope is that he lives to be 105 so that he can finish this.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/687 "2018-04-28T18:11:37Z")

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He’s already given it to a ghost writer—HBO. I think it’s reasonable to expect that that will be the only ending completed.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/688 "2018-04-30T10:36:45Z")

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He could write more books that are shorter instead of sticking to 7, that way he could put them out quicker.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/689 "2018-04-30T14:34:21Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> He could write more books that are shorter instead of sticking to 7, that way he could put them out quicker.

I don’t think it’s a question of ‘sticking’ to seven at all – wasn’t it supposed to be a trilogy when he started? Writers just have lengths that suit the way they write. Some do short stories, some can make their point in 200 pages, others need a wider canvas.

Though once you’re famous, editors certainly stop trying to ‘trim the fat.’

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/690 "2018-04-30T20:10:22Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> Though once you’re famous, editors certainly stop trying to ‘trim the fat.’

Or your publishing company (whom you’ve made oodles of dollars for) tell you, “Sure! Your wife can be your editor! No problem!”

(Not to disparage Harriet MacDougal, but an editor NEEDS an objectivity distance.)

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/691 "2018-05-07T23:42:40Z")

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It’s a lot more fun hanging out with Hollywood folks than writing a 900 page book .

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/692 "2018-06-09T16:36:15Z")

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Made a game of these [last words](https://imgur.com/gallery/SLm250o) with hubby. Look how Maester Aemon’s words were a bit of fan service to the book readers.

I read somewhere that production has started on the spin-off. Did they ever say what the premise is?

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/693 "2018-06-09T19:40:16Z")

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It’s supposed to be set about 10,000 years in the past during the “Age of Heroes”.

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/694 "2018-06-09T20:25:33Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> It’s supposed to be set about 10,000 years in the past during the “Age of Heroes”.
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> Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

Oooh. The first war with The Others.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/695 "2018-06-09T20:50:04Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Oooh. The first war with The Others.

Now that I think of it, it’s just more of the same, innit? Hopefully we’ll get some of GoT big historical mysteries solved like, how in the heck did they build that wall?

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/696 "2018-06-09T21:07:46Z")

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No idea why they are going into unexplored territory instead of mining the deep and best of all already written history of Westeros. The show was at its best when it had Martin’s writings to guide it, when it got into fan fiction territory the quality went downhill. This looks like its going straight to the fan fiction.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/697 "2018-06-09T21:14:10Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Made a game of these [last words](https://imgur.com/gallery/SLm250o) with hubby. Look how Maester Aemon’s words were a bit of fan service to the book readers.

For this non-book reader would you please spoil it for me?

> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Now that I think of it, it’s just more of the same, innit? Hopefully we’ll get some of GoT big historical mysteries solved like, how in the heck did they build that wall?

There’s a wiki out there that tells how the wall was made.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/698 "2018-06-09T21:50:24Z")

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Egg is Aegon V, his brother, and also Daenerys’ grandfather (show) or great grandfather (books)

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/699 "2018-06-11T02:52:30Z")

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Oh, neat. Thank you.

off to the GoT wiki, again.

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/700 "2018-06-21T11:33:33Z")

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Various reports says the filming of season 8 is done . I guess they have to move on to the CGI parts. Eventually HBO will announce when it returns but I suppose they are in no hurry to do that It seems they could put out clips now if they want.

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