# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/61 "2012-09-16T18:44:27Z")

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GRRM was just a good sport on NPR’s _Wait Wait… Don’t Tell Me!_: [Wait Wait...Don't Tell Me! : NPR](http://www.npr.org/programs/wait-wait-dont-tell-me/)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/62 "2012-10-11T12:48:31Z")

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Emilia Clarke (royal dragon babe) is going to Broadway: [http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/10/breakfast-at-tiffanys-comes-to-broadway-with-game-of-thrones-star/](http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/10/breakfast-at-tiffanys-comes-to-broadway-with-game-of-thrones-star/)

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/63 "2012-10-11T14:17:23Z")

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Just got sent this link for an interview with GRRM. Lots of interesting stuff, including a hint that there _IS_ some sort of meaning behind why some chapters have names beyond the simple character names he always used at the start.

He also says he’s aiming for 2014 for the next book, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

> **[George R.R. Martin: “Trying to please everyone is a horrible mistake”](http://www.adriasnews.com/2012/10/george-r-r-martin-interview.html)**
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> Interview with George R.R. Martin, author of A Game of Thrones.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/64 "2012-11-26T13:53:40Z")

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The S3 teaser poster is out: [http://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/game-thrones-season-3-teaser-poster-offers-stony-hint-things-come-65121](http://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/game-thrones-season-3-teaser-poster-offers-stony-hint-things-come-65121)

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/65 "2012-11-26T16:28:58Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Who do we need now? Strong Belwas and Vargo Hoat?

Last I heard there isn’t going to be a Strong Belwas. :mad:

Maybe they’ll combine him with Daario (which wouldn’t be bad, since Daario does shit all.)

For some reason, I just really, _really_ want the scene of Belwas (or whoever replaces him,) taking a big shit after besting Yunkai’s warrior in single combat (I _think_ it as Yunkai, might have been Mereen, I get them confused.)

It’s a great “fuck you!” scene.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/66 "2012-11-26T21:38:54Z")

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Oh, man, the first time I read that scene I was totally picturing how it would be filmed. _ **Really** _? No Strong Belwas? I wanted to see the teeny tiny vest! ☹

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/67 "2012-11-26T22:55:10Z")

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That’s too bad, I love Strong Belwas.

I’ve read all the books to date, but I’ve only seen S1 of the show so far. Where did S2 end? The Battle of the Blackwater?

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/68 "2012-11-26T23:05:34Z")

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Awww, Belwas is great fun in the books. Maybe we just won’t see him until the 4th season?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/69 "2012-11-26T23:30:01Z")

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> [@lisiate](#):
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> Awww, Belwas is great fun in the books. Maybe we just won’t see him until the 4th season?

Arstan is in season 3, so Belwas would have to come in some other way. Dany’s going to at least get the Unsullied this season. I’m not sure how he’d come in after that. He’s not a big character, I’m pretty sure he’s gone.

**Skammer** , it ends with the attack on the first of the first men.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/70 "2012-12-03T17:59:18Z")

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[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yj0e0r_yLI)

I’ll be in my bunk.

Also, I hear some rumors that Belwas might be in.

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**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/71 "2012-12-03T20:11:18Z")

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I can’t believe they cast Ciaran Hinds and DIDN’T cast him as Roose Bolton. That would have been a match made in heaven. Mance Rayder oughta be Gary Oldman.

Oh wait, they’ve already cast the substitute Gary Oldman as Littlefinger. People might have trouble keeping them straight.

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/72 "2012-12-03T20:49:58Z")

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Hell they could cast Gary Oldman as Belwas and he’d probably be able to carry it off.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/73 "2012-12-03T21:09:39Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yj0e0r\_yLI&feature=player\_embedded](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yj0e0r_yLI&feature=player_embedded)
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> I’ll be in my bunk.
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> Also, I hear some rumors that Belwas might be in.

Who is at 1:37?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/74 "2012-12-03T21:12:23Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Who is at 1:37?

Meera Reed immediately followed by the renamed Vargo Hoat.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/75 "2012-12-03T21:27:32Z")

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Thanks. And who’s that fighting with Brienne of Tarth at 1:53?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/76 "2012-12-03T21:33:48Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Thanks. And who’s that fighting with Brienne of Tarth at 1:53?

Jaime.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/77 "2013-01-10T19:04:34Z")

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The actor who plays Ser Ilyn Payne has been diagnosed with terminal cancer, alas: [Game of Thrones Actor Has Terminal Cancer - E! Online](http://www.eonline.com/news/377245/game-of-thrones-actor-wilko-johnson-has-terminal-pancreatic-cancer)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/78 "2013-01-27T22:38:14Z")

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For those GOT fans who see _Zero Dark Thirty_… watch for Stephen Dillane (Stannis) as the (unnamed) National Security Advisor, and Jennifer Ehle (originally cast as Catelyn) as a CIA counterterrorism agent.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/79 "2013-02-20T15:37:39Z")

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A 2002 interview with GRRM - a little dated now, but still interesting, esp. as to his interests and how he goes about writing:

> **[Science Fiction Weekly Interview](http://web.archive.org/web/20020223190420/http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue190/interview.html)**
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> Science Fiction Weekly gets up close and personal interviewing the top SF celebrities and personalities.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/80 "2013-02-20T15:52:33Z")

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Ron Donachie, who plays Ser Rodrik Cassel, also played a dour Scottish butler in the most recent episode of [ital]Downton Abbey[/ital]:

> **[Rodrik Cassel](https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Rodrik_Cassel)**
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> Hush now, child. I'm off to see your father.Rodrik Cassel to Bran Stark before his beheading by Theon Greyjoy. Ser Rodrik Cassel was the master-at-arms at Winterfell and a loyal servant to House Stark. Even in his old age he was still a skilled...

[http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1497060.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Downton+Abbey+S3](http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1497060.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Downton+Abbey+S3)

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