# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/841 "2019-01-29T17:53:03Z")
You probably don’t need to be a Targaryen when you’re the Night King, riding a dragon you personally raised from the dead. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/842 "2019-02-09T20:22:17Z")
From Tyrion to… Tattoo?!?: [My Dinner with Hervé (TV Movie 2018) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1311076/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_5) ---
**Author:** ![Telperion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telperion/32/509_2.png) [@Telperion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperion)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/843 "2019-02-09T21:43:30Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > Why is the entire Web convinced that the Night King is a Stark? I mean, maybe he’s both, like Jon. But he’s riding a dragon! He has to be Targaryen, right? Lots of different people used to ride dragons before the fall of Valyria. The Targaryens are just the only ones that went over to Westeros. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/844 "2019-02-10T04:43:04Z")
> [@Telperion](#): > > Lots of different people used to ride dragons before the fall of Valyria. The Targaryens are just the only ones that went over to Westeros. Do we really know that? I thought that era is pretty much lost to history. I don’t remember Martin ever writing that dragon-riding was common at all, let alone by non-Targaryens. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/845 "2019-02-10T04:55:48Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > Why is the entire Web convinced that the Night King is a Stark? I mean, maybe he’s both, like Jon. But he’s riding a dragon! He has to be Targaryen, right? Bran and he look vaguely alike and the Night Kings broach emblem looks like a tower to me. Seems too convulated to me. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/846 "2019-02-10T09:01:50Z")
> [@Telperion](#): > > Lots of different people used to ride dragons before the fall of Valyria. The Targaryens are just the only ones that went over to Westeros. IIRC, only Valyrians could ride Dragons (there were the ones who domesticated them in the first place), and the Freehold of Valyria had shown no interest in Westeros before the Doom. It seems unlikely to me that some random Valyrian could have ended up in the North and turned into the Night King, but I guess anything can happen. Anyway, it’s a moot point: only Valyrians could ride dragons because \*living \*dragons would not allow anyone else to ride them. The Night King’s dragon is a zombie under his control - it has no choice other to obey him. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/847 "2019-02-10T12:37:42Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > IIRC, only Valyrians could ride Dragons (there were the ones who domesticated them in the first place), and the Freehold of Valyria had shown no interest in Westeros before the Doom. It seems unlikely to me that some random Valyrian could have ended up in the North and turned into the Night King, but I guess anything can happen. > > Anyway, it’s a moot point: only Valyrians could ride dragons because \*living \*dragons would not allow anyone else to ride them. The Night King’s dragon is a zombie under his control - it has no choice other to obey him. In the background “history” books that GRRM put out, occasionally a non Valyrian would tame a dragon. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/848 "2019-02-10T13:11:10Z")
I’ve read those too, and IIRC, all those people came from places like Dragonstone and King’s Landing, where plenty of Targaryan genes had trickled down into the general population. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/849 "2019-03-05T16:36:13Z")
[New trailer](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rlR4PJn8b8I) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/850 "2019-03-05T16:52:31Z")
Me likey! ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/851 "2019-03-05T17:43:07Z")
Hmm, it’s certainly an interesting trailer. I’m torn about the last season though. Very excited to see how everything will end, but I’ve always thought the most interesting parts were the characters and politics. I think this season will be much more action heavy. Regarding the Night King being a Stark: people from other places on the internet might have a more diverse set of information that they’re basing that theory on. There are youtube videos on the subject if you’re not afraid of possible spoilers/contamination. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/852 "2019-03-05T18:02:33Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Me likey! I cant breathe! Cant breathe! ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/853 "2019-03-05T21:00:07Z")
If this show doesn’t end with Brienne and Tormund killing sixteen enemies apiece and then catching sight of each other across a bloody battlefield as they slowly walk toward each other and tear off their armor…I shall be very Put Out. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2019, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/854 "2019-03-05T23:53:05Z")
Oh, yeah. Those two kids _have_ to get together. And survive the end credits. The only thing we can be sure of is that by the end of Episode 6, the body count will be staggering. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/855 "2019-03-06T00:04:32Z")
My list of people I’m fairly sure will live through it is: Arya, Tyrion. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/856 "2019-03-06T00:19:29Z")
The only one I’m certain of is Sam. Trailer was cool, and I’ll look at one of those fine-tooth synopses later as it didn’t look like much new. But it looks like Jon’s about to ride a dragon. Edit: no pun intended. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/857 "2019-03-06T00:33:50Z")
The trailer did show us that Tormund and Beric survived The Wall coming down. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/858 "2019-03-06T00:46:04Z")
I feel like this season is just going to be a couple episodes of build up towards a big climatic battle, dealing with Cerseis betrayal and the inevitable bitter sweet ending. I put Jamie and Cersei as the only significant deaths. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/859 "2019-03-06T01:31:06Z")
Apparently George’s wife has threatened to divorce him if he kills off Arya. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/860 "2019-03-06T02:01:56Z")
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