# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/941 "2019-04-09T16:26:16Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Hmm. I knew he was trouble when I first spotted him hanging around Winterfell…
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> Here’s all seven seasons of GOT so far, summarized in twelve minutes: [Watch All 7 Seasons of Game of Thrones in 12 Minutes | Mental Floss](http://mentalfloss.com/article/578706/game-of-thrones-full-series-recap)

This may have been linked to before, but here’s [An Illustrated Guide to all 2,339 Deaths in Game of Thrones So Far.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/entertainment/game-of-thrones/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.244480f62cfc)

Beats _The Sopranos_ and _Breaking Bad_ by a long shot. 😃

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/942 "2019-04-10T05:28:15Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> [_The Worst Witch_](https://www.netflix.com/watch/80195282?trackId=13752289&tctx=0%2C1%2Cc1c64087-ae9f-4683-80e7-dd4dad777af4-67591076%2C%2C), a sort of a distaff _Harry Potter_.

:mad: The first _Worst Witch_ book was published _ **in 1974** _. There was a film made (with Fairuza Balk! And Tim Curry!!!) 10 years before _Harry Potter_ was even published.

_Harry Potter_ is the male _Worst Witch_, if anything.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/943 "2019-04-10T13:40:20Z")

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Sorry I offended you; being unfamiliar with the franchise I was unaware of the timing. In any event I did not mean ‘distaff HP’ as a denigration but merely an elevator pitch thumbnail. Beyond the broadest strokes – young person discovers they are a member of a magical community heretofore unknown to them and are being trained in how to use their new powers – the stories are completely different.

How would _you_ describe _The Worst Witch_ in a single sentence to someone who had never heard of it before?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/944 "2019-04-10T14:07:28Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> …How would _you_ describe _The Worst Witch_ in a single sentence to someone who had never heard of it before?

“That TV show starring the actress who played the second-most-badass girl on _Game of Thrones_”?

After Arya, of course…

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/945 "2019-04-10T14:23:51Z")

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Loved Weiss’ comment to EW about the ending:

_"I’m hoping we get the ‘Breaking Bad’ [finale] argument where it’s like, “Is that an A or an A+?,’” he said. “I want that to be the argument. I just wish we found better directors for it.”_

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/946 "2019-04-10T16:16:38Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> How would _you_ describe _The Worst Witch_ in a single sentence to someone who had never heard of it before?

“The adventures of a clumsy young girl at a boarding school for student witches…that isn’t _Little Witch Academia_”

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/947 "2019-04-10T17:33:51Z")

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Are we allowed to ask book questions here?

What is happening with Sansa as of the latest book? In the series she goes to marry Ramsey and so forth, but in the book Ramsey marries a FakeSansa – Jeyne somebody, daughter of some Winterfell servant – and she’s the one who escapes and gets to Castle Black.

But where is Sansa?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/948 "2019-04-10T17:36:35Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> Are we allowed to ask book questions here?
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> What is happening with Sansa as of the latest book? In the series she goes to marry Ramsey and so forth, but in the book Ramsey marries a FakeSansa – Jeyne somebody, daughter of some Winterfell servant – and she’s the one who escapes and gets to Castle Black.
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> But where is Sansa?

IIRC Sansa is still in the Vale, pretending to be Littlefinger’s bastard daughter.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/949 "2019-04-10T17:45:12Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> IIRC Sansa is still in the Vale, pretending to be Littlefinger’s bastard daughter.

Okay, thank you.

Wow, when you think of where the books are frozen (heh) versus where the tv series is, it’s kind of shocking.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/950 "2019-04-10T19:01:23Z")

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Things have moved on juuuuuust a bit.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/951 "2019-04-10T19:35:10Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Things have moved on juuuuuust a bit.

I do wonder if the end is the same place and how far before the end do the timelines merge.

IMO there’s a decent change that Sansa and Jon rally the North to Winterfell before a confrontation with the Others. Sansa’s path there will be quite a bit different. Jon’s might not be, but hopefully doesn’t involve capturing a wight for Cersei or banging Dany.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/952 "2019-04-10T23:05:27Z")

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Slate’s culture writer wonders [if we must watch the final season](https://slate.com/culture/2019/04/game-of-thrones-final-season-dread.html), given the likelihood the episodes will at worst stink or at best be unsatisfying.

> [@Slate](#):
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> So must I watch these six episodes, given that they will be bad? I’m sure they’ll have stirring scenes in them and fun surprises. The Mountain will get his comeuppance at the Hound’s big hands, I’m sure. But they’re also gonna blow it. They’ll pack far too much into too short a time, desperately attempting to wrap up as many loose ends as possible. They’ll also nevertheless leave too many of those loose ends dangling. Tyrion will do something stupidly out of character. The big battle will look kind of fake. Cersei’s story will be mishandled, or Arya’s, or Sansa’s, or more likely all three of them. Somewhere in Episode 4 they’ll introduce some new character, and I’ll be like, “Who the hell is that?” and it’ll turn out that he’s not new, he was important for one scene in, like, Season 2, which first aired 100 years ago. I’ll need the **[SDMB]** to explain what’s cool about that.

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/953 "2019-04-10T23:41:56Z")

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Frankly I’m just going to watch Preston Jacobs’ reaction to them.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/954 "2019-04-11T01:49:49Z")

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I’m just wondering if the writers are going to stretch the body count out, killing off a beloved character each episode or go for the gut punch and slaughter a bunch all at once? You _know_ the body count is going to rival Gettysburg Day 3. But will it be a death by inches or “Rocks fall, everyone dies?”

Probably in Episode 3.

My money is on Sansa as the last Queen standing.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/955 "2019-04-11T02:04:54Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> I do wonder if the end is the same place and how far before the end do the timelines merge.
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> IMO there’s a decent change that Sansa and Jon rally the North to Winterfell before a confrontation with the Others. Sansa’s path there will be quite a bit different. Jon’s might not be, but hopefully doesn’t involve capturing a wight for Cersei or banging Dany.

Jon banging Dany is exactly the type of thing that GRRM would do. The horror, the tragedy, etc.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/956 "2019-04-11T04:07:56Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Slate’s culture writer wonders [if we must watch the final season](https://slate.com/culture/2019/04/game-of-thrones-final-season-dread.html)…

Heh. That was good, even though I disagreed with him (purposefully bad grammar and all).

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/957 "2019-04-11T04:18:01Z")

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I think Bronn gets whacked early, to prove the deadliness of some new player. Maybe Euron at the head of the Golden Company He’s at KL at the end of the last season, right? He doesn’t go north with Jamie?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/958 "2019-04-11T12:32:36Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Jon banging Dany is exactly the type of thing that GRRM would do. The horror, the tragedy, etc.

Does anyone think that’s tragic? Other than the incest it’s gotta be the most fantasy tropey story beat possible. If GRRM actually sticks to subverting tropes, they don’t end up together.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/959 "2019-04-11T14:06:43Z")

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Was the High Sparrow a villain? Weigh in here: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=873790](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=873790)

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/960 "2019-04-13T12:19:53Z")

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[If GoT was made in India](https://youtu.be/A4DlBSk5dBQ)

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