# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1001 "2019-04-16T15:02:56Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Zombie direwolves, too!

Could be. We’ve already seen a zombie Ice Bear. Maybe some zombie mammoths could help take down the walls of Winterfell. (Though when you have a zombie dragon that might not be necessary.)

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1002 "2019-04-16T15:58:37Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> Yeah, I couldn’t figure out who it meant but that’s a good guess. He died off “screen” and usually those characters (e.g. Davos) aren’t really dead.

He didn’t die off screen at all. His agony and death are detailed in the books (it took him a couple days to die). Even how the body will be disposed of is mentioned.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1003 "2019-04-16T16:39:28Z")

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My wild-ass prediction on how it all ends. Once the Song of Fire and Ice was born (Jon), the Night King’s watch ended. He needs to put Jon in the middle of that pinwheel so he can go on to his reward. Jon will sacrifice everything to save whatever is left of the human population, becoming the new Night King for eons.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1004 "2019-04-16T16:41:21Z")

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Wow. That’s pretty bleak.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1005 "2019-04-16T16:46:55Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Wow. That’s pretty bleak.

Well, this is Game of Thrones. To paraphrase: If you’re expecting a happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention!

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1006 "2019-04-16T19:12:05Z")

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Adding to my theory-- at first I thought that Dany and Jon’s baby would be The Prince that was Promised, but I don’t think humanity will last 9 months after the dead attack in earnest.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1007 "2019-04-20T20:41:36Z")

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For those who may have overlooked it earlier, here’s the discussion thread for the S8 season premiere: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=874054](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=874054)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1008 "2019-05-01T18:46:48Z")

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A second _Game of Phones_ hotline parody: [Game of Thrones Hotline for Confused Fans #2 - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuxmSHyDUYs&feature=youtu.be)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1009 "2019-05-05T03:00:43Z")

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Some of the GOT cast surprises a hospice patient: [https://www.cnn.com/videos/entertainment/2019/05/01/game-of-thrones-hospice-trnd-orig-llr.cnn](https://www.cnn.com/videos/entertainment/2019/05/01/game-of-thrones-hospice-trnd-orig-llr.cnn)

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1010 "2019-05-05T18:45:31Z")

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3 more GOT shows are being worked on, 1 is filming later this year and the other 2 are in the script development phase.

[George R.R. Martin Gives a Quick Update on the Game of Thrones Spinoffs](https://io9.gizmodo.com/george-rr-martin-gives-a-quick-update-on-the-game-of-th-1834526927)

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1011 "2019-05-05T19:32:55Z")

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It makes me wonder if any of the spinoffs will try to replicate seasons 1-4 or if they’ll all replicate the later seasons.

The show has gone from a smart, subversive, realistic fantasy series to a paint by number standard fantasy series. The fact that only about 25% of the viewers even seem to realize this and the rest love the way it is now and don’t even understand what else it once was makes me wonder if the other series will basically be dumbed down from the start.

I don’t know. It really depends on whether we get showrunners that have some balls and a vision, or if we’re just going to milk this game of thrones thing like it’s the marvel cinematic universe. I’m not that optimistic.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1012 "2019-05-05T19:38:12Z")

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As I said on the other thread, when you watch a TV show then you should expect it’s going to be pretty similar to other shows ,not a book. Martin abandoned the story and gave it over to HBO so you get the standard type of show HBO does. Maybe Martin will be more involved in these other shows or maybe he’s just going to cash some fat paychecks. I would vote for the latter being way more likely.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1013 "2019-05-05T19:48:35Z")

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The Marvel cinematic universe has plenty of balls and vision to go along with amazing writers and a showrunners. This is closer to the DC universe, they just don’t get it.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1014 "2019-05-05T19:58:27Z")

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Yeah, the MCU was probably a bad comparison. I find comic book movies generally bland and uninteresting but there’s nothing particularly bad bout the MCU and I shouldn’t have really made that comparison.

I guess I just sort of mean, uh, unsubversive. Just the standard normal stories we see in popular entertainment. A standard fantasy series in the GoT world.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1015 "2019-05-05T20:01:36Z")

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The GOT producers/creators were pretty much unknown before the show. I guess they must have done a hell of an interview or presentation to HBO to get hired.

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1016 "2019-05-05T20:32:11Z")

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Oh man, having just read about the leaks in episode 4 I can’t wait for the firestorm to erupt.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1017 "2019-05-06T17:27:39Z")

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The Mother of Dragons likes her Starbucks: [Sharp-Eyed ‘Game Of Thrones’ Viewers Just Spotted A HUGE Mistake | HuffPost Entertainment](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/game-of-thrones-starbucks-cup_n_5ccfeb7fe4b04e275d4ca2da)

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1018 "2019-05-06T17:36:40Z")

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If one of the spinoffs is Dunk and Egg, that’s a fairly standard story without much, if any, subversion of tropes. So people could be disappointed in that.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1019 "2019-05-06T17:36:44Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> The Mother of Dragons likes her Starbucks: [Sharp-Eyed ‘Game Of Thrones’ Viewers Just Spotted A HUGE Mistake | HuffPost Entertainment](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/game-of-thrones-starbucks-cup_n_5ccfeb7fe4b04e275d4ca2da)

You mean Starkbucks.🙂

To nitpick, I know people are calling it a “Starbuck’s cup” but I don’t think you can see a logo and it could be a generic coffee cup. Still, not likely to be at Winterfell.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1020 "2019-05-06T17:59:33Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> If one of the spinoffs is Dunk and Egg, that’s a fairly standard story without much, if any, subversion of tropes. So people could be disappointed in that.

I enjoyed the D&E short stories and think they’d lend themselves well to a series. It does subvert some tropes, esp. the inherent nobility of a knight-errant’s work. And you could have plenty of in-jokes and foreshadowings of _GOT_, so that would be a plus.

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