# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1021 "2019-05-06T18:11:56Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I enjoyed the D&E short stories and think they’d lend themselves well to a series. It does subvert some tropes, esp. the inherent nobility of a knight-errant’s work. And you could have plenty of in-jokes and foreshadowings of _GOT_, so that would be a plus.

The Hedge Knight would make a pretty decent stand alone movie.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1022 "2019-05-06T19:26:18Z")

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Yeah, I think so, too.

The actor who plays Jaime tells us what the character might be thinking… and teaches us some Danish slang!: [Game of Thrones Star Nikolaj Coster-Waldau Explains Jaime’s Baffling Choice | Vanity Fair](https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/05/game-of-thrones-why-jaime-leaves-brienne-for-cersei-kill-her-nikolaj-interview)

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1023 "2019-05-06T19:49:36Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> You mean Starkbucks.🙂
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> To nitpick, I know people are calling it a “Starbuck’s cup” but I don’t think you can see a logo and it could be a generic coffee cup. Still, not likely to be at Winterfell.

“Starbucks” is funnier than “Generic coffee shop” though.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1024 "2019-05-06T23:10:24Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> If one of the spinoffs is Dunk and Egg, that’s a fairly standard story without much, if any, subversion of tropes. So people could be disappointed in that.

GRRM has said that he wants to keep that one to tell himself. Robert’s Rebellion is also out because it already has a known conclusion. I hope Dance of Dragons makes it. It’s basically the Anarchy with dragons.

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1025 "2019-05-07T01:21:37Z")

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GRRM said on his Not A Blog there were five projects in development with HBO and now it’s down to 3 and said one was The Long Night, but he’s not supposed to say that.

I like Dunk and Egg too much to see it as a show RIGHT NOW. Like the novels, I want to see them finished first in print rather than on screen and unless he pulls a Beyonce on us in the next 13 days, I’m not going to get my novels wish.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1026 "2019-05-07T01:22:49Z")

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The Dunk and Egg stories end with the tragedy at Summerhall, so while it might be a fairly standard story the ending is “and then everyone dies horrifically”, which might be more of a shock without desensitizing people first.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1027 "2019-05-07T01:29:30Z")

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Frankly, I am hoping they stick to _The Long Night_ only.  
Far more interesting than Targy retreads.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1028 "2019-05-07T02:16:31Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> “Starbucks” is funnier than “Generic coffee shop” though.

As Cecil of House Adams taught us using the example of General Mills and cornflakes.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1029 "2019-05-07T19:24:10Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> You mean Starkbucks.🙂
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> To nitpick, I know people are calling it a “Starbuck’s cup” but I don’t think you can see a logo and it could be a generic coffee cup. Still, not likely to be at Winterfell.

To paraphrase [Runyon’s Law](http://www.sanjeev.net/murphys-laws/runyons-law.html), The race is not always to the swift nor the coffee to be Starbucks, but that’s the way to bet.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1030 "2019-05-07T19:27:31Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> The Dunk and Egg stories end with the tragedy at Summerhall, so while it might be a fairly standard story the ending is “and then everyone dies horrifically”, which might be more of a shock without desensitizing people first.

My theory has always been the eggs there are Danys. So in some sense Duncan is correct in that he did have a destiny.

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1031 "2019-05-08T01:10:36Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> My theory has always been the eggs there are Danys. So in some sense Duncan is correct in that he did have a destiny.

I think it was implied heavily in [Fire and Blood](https://www.tor.com/2018/12/07/6-mysteries-to-ponder-when-youve-finished-george-r-r-martins-fire-blood/) that the three eggs were not from there.

> [@](#):
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> During the reign of Jaehaerys Targaryen, Queen Rhaena takes on a paramour known as Lady Elissa Farman. Eventually, that relationship turns sour and Farman pops off from Dragonstone, stealing three dragon eggs and selling them in Braavos in order to fund the next phase of her life.
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> So… are those eventually the eggs that Daenerys receives?

It could be a red herring, but three eggs end up where Illyrio eventually lives…

Maybe they accidentally woke the Others. Maybe Duncan kept them from manifesting in Summerhall but they woke up past the Wall.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1032 "2019-05-08T15:28:33Z")

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Ready for pickup at the Winterfell Starbucks: [https://i.redd.it/x77zo4mv9xcz.jpg](https://i.redd.it/x77zo4mv9xcz.jpg)

A revealing interview with the \*GOT \*showrunners: [https://thumbs.gfycat.com/NastyMarriedAmericanbobtail-mobile.mp4](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/NastyMarriedAmericanbobtail-mobile.mp4)

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1033 "2019-05-09T00:48:48Z")

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> [@lisiate](#):
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> Oh man, having just read about the leaks in episode 4 I can’t wait for the firestorm to erupt.

Now that the episode has aired : were the leaks real of fake?

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1034 "2019-05-09T01:06:34Z")

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> [@clairobscur](#):
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> Now that the episode has aired : were the leaks real of fake?

Real. I believe the whole episode was leaked.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1035 "2019-05-17T04:09:26Z")

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My son just pointed out that the actress who plays Yara Greyjoy is playing a very different character in the HBO miniseries _Gentleman Jack_:

[![](https://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/game-of-thrones-yara-greyjoy.jpg) ](https://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/game-of-thrones-yara-greyjoy.jpg)  
[![](https://images.immediate.co.uk/production/volatile/sites/3/2019/04/Gemma-Whelan-as-Marian-in-Gentleman-Jack-9877cba.jpg?background=white&lb=620,413&quality=90) ](https://images.immediate.co.uk/production/volatile/sites/3/2019/04/Gemma-Whelan-as-Marian-in-Gentleman-Jack-9877cba.jpg?background=white&lb=620,413&quality=90)

> **[Gemma Whelan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemma_Whelan)**
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> Gemma Elizabeth Whelan (born 23 April 1981) is an English actress and comedian known for portraying Yara Greyjoy in the HBO fantasy-drama series Game of Thrones. She also plays Kate in all seasons of the comedy Upstart Crow, Detective Eunice Noon on the first season of The End of the F\*\*\*ing World on Channel 4, and Geraldine on the third season of Killing Eve.
> Whelan was born in Leeds and grew up in the Midlands. She attended The King's High School for Girls in Warwick and the London Studio Ce...

You can hear and see her in the first ten seconds of this trailer, and several other times later: [GENTLEMAN JACK Official Trailer (HD) Jessica Baglow HBO Series - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg9d6S6N_xw)

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**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1036 "2019-05-19T02:56:25Z")

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Not sure if this has been linked. Here it is again.

[Game Of Thrones Theme, Shred Style.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i0a7RDPkM8)

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1037 "2019-05-19T03:59:52Z")

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Ramin Djawadi is a genius.

[Season 8, The Night King](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1frgt0D_f4)

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1038 "2019-05-20T11:31:57Z")

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And now my watch has ended. I cancelled HBO Now. With the free week I only paid for one month. In addition to GoT I watched the first season of Westworld (yes, I’d like to watch the second season, but I’m sticking with my conviction to cancelling after GoT ends)

Brian

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1039 "2019-05-20T11:53:44Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> And now my watch has ended. I cancelled HBO Now. With the free week I only paid for one month. In addition to GoT I watched the first season of Westworld (yes, I’d like to watch the second season, but I’m sticking with my conviction to cancelling after GoT ends)
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> Brian

The second season is not very good, imo.

I’ve heard Barry is great though, so I might try to binge that before my subscription is up.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1040 "2019-05-26T15:25:54Z")

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Check out the GOT making-of documentary “The Last Watch,” tonight at 9pm EST: [Game of Thrones: The Last Watch | Official Documentary Trailer | HBO - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K7c0jXkaGc)

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