# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 53
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1041 "2019-05-27T19:58:31Z")
Maybe we should rename this thread to “The Song of Fire and Ice” between books thread. Then once a year someone can post “Nope, still no Winds of Winter book.” ☹ ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1042 "2019-05-27T20:24:53Z")
We can combine it with the thread on when “The Last Dangerous Visions” is coming out. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1043 "2019-05-31T21:34:07Z")
OK N9IWP, this is your reminder. Time to unsubscribe. Please confirm when you have done so, or else defend your continued consumption. 😉 > [@N9IWP](#): > > Valar Subscribus. > You will all help me cancel, right? > > Brian > [@TruCelt](#): > > We will remind you. You may even say that you have done it. But secretly, you will be binging Westworld. You’ll be wanting to talk to us about it, but unable to because you’ve told us you quit. Eventually, you will become desperate enough to create a sock puppet in order to engage the debate about sentience, emotion, and morality. > > And the socks will increase. The Girls sock persona won’t fit with a True Detective discussion, and you’ll begin to attempt regional accents to differentiate them. When you confuse the Deadwood sock with the Big Little Lies sock, the mods will catch you and kick you off the Dope for puppeteering. > > ::shakes head sadly:: > > But yes, we’ll remind you. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1044 "2019-05-31T22:56:31Z")
Post 1040. I did indeed cancel, with the free week I only paid for one month. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1045 "2019-05-31T23:21:56Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Check out the GOT making-of documentary “The Last Watch,” tonight at 9pm EST: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K7c0jXkaGc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K7c0jXkaGc) Everyone’s complaining about them doing a short season instead of 10 full episodes, but after seeing that I think we would have had to wait at least three years between seasons if they had done so. As they point out, they made the equivalent of six theatrical movies as it was. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1046 "2019-06-02T04:46:11Z")
Tomorrow I am traveling to Bolivia, coincidentally to the area where Che Guevara lived his last days before being captured and executed. I came across this quote, from his [farewell letter to Fidel Castro.](https://www.marxists.org/archive/guevara/1965/04/01.htm) > [@Che Guevara](#): > > Later we knew it was true, that in a revolution one wins or dies (if it is a real one). I wonder if GRRM picked up the phrasing from Che. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1047 "2019-06-03T02:19:36Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Check out the GOT making-of documentary “The Last Watch,” tonight at 9pm EST: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K7c0jXkaGc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K7c0jXkaGc) Best moment: Kit Harrington didn’t read his script before the first read through. So you get to watch him find out that Jon kills Danaerys It’s just a stunning moment, well worth watching. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1048 "2019-06-03T10:20:27Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Everyone’s complaining about them doing a short season instead of 10 full episodes, but after seeing that I think we would have had to wait at least three years between seasons if they had done so. As they point out, they made the equivalent of six theatrical movies as it was. Where is this stuff coming from? Not a single episode of season 6 was of theatrical length. They claimed they would be, but they weren’t. Even at the numbers I put up here, I’m pretty sure not a single one clocked 1:20 if you don’t count the titles and previously on. These are the official numbers. I know I turned off Episode 2 at 1:19, and it had a previously on at the start which is likely included. 1 54 2 58 3 1:22 4 1:18 5 1:20 6 1:20 A minimum for me a feature length is 1 hour and 30 minutes. I’d say most of the 1:20 ish ones had 1:16 in actual content (removing previously on titles). So can we put this to bed, please? They were extended episodes. Not mini movies. The hype train for GOT sold us. It wasn’t true. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1049 "2019-06-04T23:32:20Z")
> [@Smid](#): > > A minimum for me a feature length is 1 hour and 30 minutes. I’d say most of the 1:20 ish ones had 1:16 in actual content (removing previously on titles). Tons of movies clock in at under 90 minutes, and even though the “previously on” bits can eat up several minutes, feature credits are typically longer than the previously on and final credits combined. The show title sequence is probably equivalent to feature opening credits. 80 minutes is short for a feature, agreed, but only by around 5 minutes. 85 minutes including credits isn’t unusual. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1050 "2019-06-05T09:58:06Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Tons of movies clock in at under 90 minutes, and even though the “previously on” bits can eat up several minutes, feature credits are typically longer than the previously on and final credits combined. The show title sequence is probably equivalent to feature opening credits. > > 80 minutes is short for a feature, agreed, but only by around 5 minutes. 85 minutes including credits isn’t unusual. Just because there are some which are under 90 minutes, they are by far untypical of anything of feature length. If it’s a feature, and its less than 1:30, then fair enough. If it’s NOT a feature, but pretending to be like one, because of the length, when its not actually what is typically and normally feature length, then it’s not feature length… They aren’t feature length, was the point. None of them were. Some seemed to trick me because there was a 15 minute making on stuck on the end, to seem like it was, but it was all in the end not a feature length, but an extended episode for 4 of the 6 episodes. In the end, it is pretty representative of Game Of Thrones: promises something, which turns out to be a load of bollocks… ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1051 "2019-06-05T10:27:54Z")
That’s fair enough, but again, you can’t discount the previously on, title sequence, and ending credits for the show length but then count the opening titles / credits and closing credits for a feature film, which typically total around 10 minutes. A typical 90-minute feature only has 80 minutes of actual movie, so when you say “1:16 in actual content (removing previously on titles)” you’re comparing apples to oranges. In reality an episode with 76 minutes of content is only 4 minutes shorter than the typical content of a 90-minute feature. Criticizing this 4-minute shortfall feels like looking for something to complain about. And during this entire exchange of ours, I keep hearing Maeby Fünke reading a negative review of her movie that includes “it’s too long” and her saying out loud “It was 72 minutes, including credits!” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1052 "2019-06-05T19:39:44Z")
MC Hodor!: [Kristian Nairn AKA Hodor Progressive Trance Set From DJ Mag HQ - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Piaa7mgzjc) ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1053 "2019-06-05T21:57:57Z")
I take it the redo season 8 petition did not work? ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1054 "2019-06-05T22:04:07Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > MC Hodor!: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Piaa7mgzjc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Piaa7mgzjc) You mean DJ Hodor. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1055 "2019-06-06T04:07:53Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > You mean DJ Hodor. Do I?: [Urban Dictionary: MC](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MC) ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1056 "2019-06-06T04:35:43Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > MC Hodor!: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Piaa7mgzjc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Piaa7mgzjc) Better dialogue than season 8. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1057 "2019-06-07T00:21:59Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Do I?: [Urban Dictionary: MC](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MC) Yes. An MC would be in the mic. Probably rapping. Which is what your link says. Hodor is [DJing](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disc%20jockey). ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1058 "2019-06-07T13:49:20Z")
I stand corrected… and neither DJing or MCing. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1059 "2019-06-08T01:43:52Z")
Your favorite lines from the TV show?: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=876821](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=876821) ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1060 "2019-06-09T00:37:05Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I stand corrected… and neither DJing or MCing. Huh? He’s clearly DJing. Is there a reason you’re being so difficult about this? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208.md?page=52) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208.md?page=54)