# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1061 "2019-06-09T03:10:22Z")

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I am not. I thought it was clear that _ **I** _ am neither DJing or MCing.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1062 "2019-06-18T23:20:47Z")

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I think I haven’t seen this linked to yet – Kit Harrington as Jon Snow apologizing to the audience for season eight: [BREAKING: JON SNOW FINALLY APOLOGIZED FOR SEASON 8 - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GdWD0yxvqw)

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1063 "2019-06-19T23:43:12Z")

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Alright, I normally wouldn’t engage in the meme posting game, but [this one](https://i.redd.it/wosfjd4r9d531.jpg)got me. What a great scene that was, and what a contrast it shows between then and now.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1064 "2019-06-19T23:47:18Z")

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Ha! Yeah, that is a good contrast.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1065 "2019-06-20T02:13:01Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> Best moment: Kit Harrington didn’t read his script before the first read through. So you get to watch him find out that Jon kills Danaerys  
> It’s just a stunning moment, well worth watching.

mispost. Nevermind

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1066 "2019-06-21T16:14:26Z")

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Just watched HBO’s excellent miniseries _Chernobyl_. Three \*GOT \*alums make appearances:

Donald Sumpter (Maester Luwin/a Communist Party ideologist)  
[![](https://criticalhits.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Donald-Sumpter.jpg) ](https://criticalhits.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Donald-Sumpter.jpg)

James Cosmo (Jeor Mormont/a Soviet miner; blink and you’ll miss him!)  
[![](https://criticalhits.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/mineiro-chernobyl.jpg) ](https://criticalhits.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/mineiro-chernobyl.jpg)

Michael McElhatton (Roose Bolton/a Soviet prosecutor)  
[![](https://criticalhits.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Michael-McElhatton.jpg) ](https://criticalhits.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Michael-McElhatton.jpg)

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1067 "2019-06-21T16:38:17Z")

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The Terror is finally on Prime. Its protagonist and antagonist are in Chernobyl, but more relevant it has Edmure Tully and Mance Rayder.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1068 "2019-06-21T16:49:55Z")

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I’ve recently been watching the miniseries _Rebellion_ about the Irish Easter Rising in 1916, which features Barriston Selmy married to Catelyn Stark.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1069 "2019-07-16T16:37:01Z")

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GOT earns a record number of Emmy nominations: ['Game of Thrones' sets record with Emmy nominations | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/entertainment/game-of-thrones-emmy-nominations/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1070 "2019-07-16T16:45:45Z")

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I guess the Emmy people are not among the tantrum throwers who demanded season 8 be redone. 🙂

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1071 "2019-07-16T17:22:57Z")

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It’s not just people who throw tantrums that recognize that it was pretty bad.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1072 "2019-07-16T18:55:59Z")

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Are the Emmy nomination voters dumb, or do they just vote for bad stuff for the hell of it? Maybe they voted for GOT just to see people’s heads explode all over again like they did during season 8?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1073 "2019-07-16T18:59:59Z")

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Kind of like _Return of the King_, the last but IMHO second-best \*LOTR \*movie, getting the most Oscar nominations - and wins for both Best Picture and Best Director.

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**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1074 "2019-07-16T19:59:28Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Are the Emmy nomination voters dumb, or do they just vote for bad stuff for the hell of it? Maybe they voted for GOT just to see people’s heads explode all over again like they did during season 8?

Oh you see, for most people the problem with Season 8 was the writing. And pretty much just the writing. The bad writing doesn’t make the, I don’t know, hairstyling any worse.  
I will be, for instance, outraged if Ramin Djawadi doesn’t win for best musical score.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1075 "2019-07-16T20:06:22Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Are the Emmy nomination voters dumb, or do they just vote for bad stuff for the hell of it? Maybe they voted for GOT just to see people’s heads explode all over again like they did during season 8?

I think the voters tend to be a bit lazy, and love the path of least resistance. If you’d nominated a particular person before, it’s easier to just keep nominating him or her. A good example is Lena Headey. Headey is a great actor, both over the course of _Game of Thrones_ and just in general. But in Season 8 her entire season was spent smirking on a balcony. She got exactly one and a half good scenes (her death and her reaction to Cleganebowl), which is just not Emmy-worthy. But it’s an easy nomination, because it’s Lena Headey as Cersei Lannister!

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1076 "2019-07-16T20:44:20Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> Oh you see, for most people the problem with Season 8 was the writing. And pretty much just the writing. The bad writing doesn’t make the, I don’t know, hairstyling any worse.  
> I will be, for instance, outraged if Ramin Djawadi doesn’t win for best musical score.

GOT was nominated for best drama show. I think the writing plays a big role in the overall show quality doesn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Telperion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telperion/32/509_2.png) [@Telperion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperion)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1077 "2019-07-16T20:44:23Z")

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[A Song of Vanilla Ice and Fire](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nws1JQHBlJA) is probably the best remix I’ve heard this year.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1078 "2019-07-16T20:47:07Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> Oh you see, for most people the problem with Season 8 was the writing. And pretty much just the writing. The bad writing doesn’t make the, I don’t know, hairstyling any worse.  
> I will be, for instance, outraged if Ramin Djawadi doesn’t win for best musical score.

This. The actors and everyone besides the writers did an amazing job. Actually the writers of episodes 1 and 2 were fantastic, not fair to lump them in with the rest. And frankly most of the things that made season 8 suck were the result of bad writing from previous seasons.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1079 "2019-07-16T20:52:51Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Kind of like _Return of the King_, the last but IMHO second-best \*LOTR \*movie, getting the most Oscar nominations - and wins for both Best Picture and Best Director.

I’m sure that’s a major factor. The show and its actors and crew are being recognized for a body of work, not a single season.

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**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1080 "2019-07-16T20:54:44Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> GOT was nominated for best drama show. I think the writing plays a big role in the overall show quality doesn’t it?

Absolutely- So those are the nominations that will be highly debated, the writing and the best overall drama, not all the other nominations.

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