# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 60
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1181 "2020-01-30T16:01:31Z")
You don’t buy that it makes sense? You’re sticking by “it just makes no sense”? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1182 "2020-01-30T16:53:15Z")
> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#): > > innocent civilians People seem really hung up on this specific point despite it being completely wrong. To Dany, they were neither innocent nor were they civilians. To her they were enemy combatants. She said this explicitly, out loud. You can’t just toss it aside with a “she was just kidding.” Her statements weren’t “fake news.” One very consistent feature of Dany throughout the entire series was NOT that she cared about innocent civilians. She cared about _slaves_; particularly freeing them. The people of King’s Landing weren’t slaves. That means they had free will to choose who to follow, and they chose to follow Cersei. Thus, they were her mortal enemies. Of course she roasted them, every single one. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1183 "2020-01-30T17:17:36Z")
Absolutely – even the children and babies were loyal followers of Cersei ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1184 "2020-01-30T17:24:19Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > People seem really hung up on this specific point despite it being completely wrong. To Dany, they were neither innocent nor were they civilians. To her they were enemy combatants. She said this explicitly, out loud. That’s what’s so bizarre to me about this line of argument - you have a character who repeatedly states out loud with no indication that they’re lying how and who she views enemies, that she plans to burn people and tear down cities, and that she will crush anyone who stands against her. But having a character clearly state out loud that they want to do X and believe person Y is an enemy apparently just isn’t enough. I’ll say it again, S8 had a lot of issues, but the claim that Dany is acting out of character for doing things she has said, out loud, that she wants to do, treating enemies harshly like she has done for the entire series, and treating people that she has said, out loud, are enemies as enemies is not one of them. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1185 "2020-03-20T19:36:39Z")
If there’s any silver lining to this #$%^&! pandemic, it’s that GRRM is writing again: [Game of Thrones' George R. R. Martin Returns to Writing amid Coronavirus](https://people.com/tv/game-of-thrones-author-george-r-r-martin-says-hes-writing-again-during-coronavirus-distancing/) ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1186 "2020-03-20T21:32:56Z")
So the real ending is going to involve Dany dying of the dragonavirus? ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1187 "2020-03-20T21:57:49Z")
He reminds me of Lucy and the football with Charlie Brown. Maybe after Charlie kicks the ball he will put out a new book. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1188 "2020-05-04T11:03:23Z")
Hafthor Bjornsson – Gregor “the Mountain” Clegane – breaks the deadlift world record 1,104 lb (501kg) > **[Hafthor Bjornsson, Game of Thrones' 'Mountain', breaks world deadlift record](https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/may/02/hafthor-bjornsson-game-of-thrones-mountain-breaks-world-deadlift-record)** > > Icelandic actor and strongman Hafthor Bjornsson set a world record for the deadlift on Saturday when he lifted 1,104 lb Brian ---
**Author:** ![Telperion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telperion/32/509_2.png) [@Telperion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperion)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1189 "2020-05-04T14:23:43Z")
That’s like picking up a small car. Is the bar even supposed to bend like that? ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1190 "2020-06-24T01:24:33Z")
Supposedly he has written 5 chapters > **[Wishful thinking: George R. R. Martin offers a new Winds of Winter estimate](https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/06/george-r-r-martin-hopes-winds-of-winter-will-be-done-by-2021/)** > > “This does not mean that the book will be finished tomorrow or published next week.” Brian ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1191 "2020-06-24T13:53:23Z")
5 chapters in 9 years. It will be out around the year 2100. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1192 "2020-07-19T23:06:57Z")
He has a new comic book out!!! George R.R. Martin’s A Clash Of Kings: The Comic Book Vol. 2 #5 ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1193 "2020-07-29T16:03:29Z")
Sophie Turner (Sansa) gives birth to a girl, the name has a GoT connection, though I don’t know if that is why it was picked: Willa > **[Joe Jonas, Sophie Turner Welcome Baby Girl Named Willa](https://www.tmz.com/2020/07/27/joe-jonas-sophie-turner-welcome-baby-girl/)** > > Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner welcomed their first baby. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1194 "2020-08-06T13:40:03Z")
A visit to Iceland, filming location for _GOT_ and many other shows and movies: [For dramatic Iceland scenes, thank this daring helicopter pilot | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/iceland-helicopter-pilot-flyover/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1195 "2020-08-07T10:45:11Z")
Willa in the series is a serving girl in one episode of Season 8 so not really of much importance, Wylla is the supposed serving girl who was spoken as to be Jon Snow’s mother in the books (assuming it’s ok to speak of them here now). By the normal standards of asoiaf one of the better treated women… ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1196 "2020-08-07T12:13:38Z")
I was thinking Ned Stark’s fling, forgetting the spelling. Ms Turner could have named the kid after her but it could have no connection to GoT (though it does seem an odd coincidence) Brian ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1197 "2020-09-02T13:00:37Z")
> **[Game of Thrones producers to adapt Chinese sci-fi 'The Three-Body Problem'...](https://www.cnn.com/style/article/netflix-three-body-problem-adaptation-intl-hnk-scli/index.html)** > > The Chinese science fiction trilogy "The Three-Body Problem" has won awards around the world and been heralded by fans including Barack Obama and sci-fi giant George R. R. Martin. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1198 "2020-09-10T14:56:15Z")
> [@Diana Rigg dies at 82](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diana-rigg-dies-at-82/920264): > > I watched the Avengers because Diana Rigg was in it. She was such a lovely lady and one of the early female action heroes. Diana was recently in Game of Thrones and a new generation of fans discovered her. She’ll be remembered for a long time. RIP ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1199 "2020-10-05T15:43:45Z")
Millie Bobby Brown was turned down for a GOT role. I guess the daughter of Cersei? > **[Millie Bobby Brown almost quit acting after 'Game of Thrones' rejection | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/05/entertainment/millie-bobby-brown-game-of-thrones-quit-acting-trnd/index.html)** > > Millie Bobby Brown says she almost quit acting after being passed over for a role in "Game of Thrones." ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/1200 "2020-10-07T13:26:30Z")
Just finished George R.R. Martin’s 1977 sf novel _Dying of the Light_ . Very bleak, but interesting and well-written. The audiobook is read by Iain Glen, best known to _Game of Thrones_ fans as Ser Jorah Mormont. He did a fine job. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208.md?page=59) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208.md?page=61)