# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/141 "2013-03-15T14:51:15Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > Edit: Game of Thrones if it were made in 1995: > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fPgIIB67bw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fPgIIB67bw) Nice! Very Xena/Hercules. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/142 "2013-03-15T15:05:35Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > Oh, for sure. Isn’t that almost at the end of SoS, too? > > It will be a _great_ last scene of an episode of season 4, though. > > [spoiler]No…_only Cat._ > > _push_ > > Perfect callback to the ending of the first episode.[/spoiler] > > Edit: Game of Thrones if it were made in 1995: > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fPgIIB67bw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fPgIIB67bw) It’s the last chapter in ASOS. I’m not sure if it’ll be the last episode though. I’m under the impression that Season 4 will include material from AFFC and ADWD which would put that more toward the middle of the season. I can’t really think of anything dramatic from the last two books that they could get to in that short of a time period though. ---
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/143 "2013-03-15T18:10:30Z")
I’m pretty sure they’re going to remix the timeline a bit, running Dany’s adventures in 4&5 alongside some Westeros stuff from Book 3. No one wants to watch two and a half seasons of her sitting around fretting about ruling people who don’t trust her and how to end slavery. It was dead boring in the books - there’s no way the casual HBO audience will stand for it. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/144 "2013-03-15T18:33:29Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > I’m pretty sure they’re going to remix the timeline a bit, running Dany’s adventures in 4&5 alongside some Westeros stuff from Book 3. No one wants to watch two and a half seasons of her sitting around fretting about ruling people who don’t trust her and how to end slavery. It was dead boring in the books - there’s no way the casual HBO audience will stand for it. I sure hope so. I recall someone here referring to those book sections as her trying to be “Princess Perfect Justice,” and I thought that was apt. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/145 "2013-03-15T22:24:45Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > …Edit: Game of Thrones if it were made in 1995: > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fPgIIB67bw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fPgIIB67bw) Nothing says “quasi-medieval epic” like a power ballad! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/146 "2013-03-16T17:54:18Z")
[New teaser](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lCQnSokNfXY). Based on the first shot, there seem to be more than a few dozen Unsullied. A \*lot \*more. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/147 "2013-03-16T18:00:37Z")
That flaming sword… ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/148 "2013-03-16T18:04:45Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > [New teaser](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lCQnSokNfXY). Based on the first shot, there seem to be more than a few dozen Unsullied. A \*lot \*more. Based on the voice over, it looks like we might get one of my favorite Stannis scenes. Where he curses his rival kings with the leeches full of king’s blood thrown into the fire. ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/149 "2013-03-16T18:08:58Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > Edit: Game of Thrones if it were made in 1995: > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fPgIIB67bw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fPgIIB67bw) That was just perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/150 "2013-03-16T18:50:34Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > I’m pretty sure they’re going to remix the timeline a bit, running Dany’s adventures in 4&5 alongside some Westeros stuff from Book 3. No one wants to watch two and a half seasons of her sitting around fretting about ruling people who don’t trust her and how to end slavery. It was dead boring in the books - there’s no way the casual HBO audience will stand for it. Yes, and there will be wholly new characters and scenes. The books are going to be less and less applicable for ‘looking ahead,’ relative to the show. All to the good. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/151 "2013-03-16T18:58:08Z")
Along those lines, I’m hoping Talisa Maegyr continues to diverge from Jeyne Westerling, and does _not_ just play the role that book readers are expecting in different ‘clothes.’ ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/152 "2013-03-16T19:56:08Z")
She’s already played the entire role that Jeyne Westerling played. Unless you subscribe to the theory that Robb knocked her up and the Blackfish smuggled her out of Riverrun. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/153 "2013-03-16T20:13:32Z")
I’m saying, I like the character of Talisa more than that of Jeyne. Therefore I hope that Talisa’s story is not limited by the role Jeyne played. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/154 "2013-03-16T21:09:02Z")
Unlike Jeyne, Talisa knows exactly what she’s doing. ---
**Author:** ![sidhechaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sidhechaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sidhechaos)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/155 "2013-03-17T04:15:00Z")
> [@HazelNutCoffee](#): > > “Fell for” is putting it strongly, but I think he did genuinely tried to do right by her as his wife. He definitely found her physically attractive and wanted to win her affections. He never fell for her the way he did for Shae though. I always got the impression Tyrion really is drawn to strong honest women. Sansa would not be the type to take him to bed other than out of duty and that didn’t really appeal to him, but he admired her at least for adapting and surviving the shitstorm of psychodrama hell that is Joff/Cersei and co. and still retaining who she is, to a degree. ---
**Author:** ![sidhechaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sidhechaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sidhechaos)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/156 "2013-03-17T04:53:03Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > The end of Season 4 has to be Tywin getting gutshot. you mean shit shot ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/157 "2013-03-17T20:29:59Z")
New Trailer [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/wfSXhMzWoA4/hqdefault.jpg "Game Of Thrones: Season 3 - "The Beast" Preview (HBO)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfSXhMzWoA4) ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/158 "2013-03-17T20:51:21Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > [New teaser](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lCQnSokNfXY). Based on the first shot, there seem to be more than a few dozen Unsullied. A \*lot \*more. Yep, I’m much happier now. ---
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/159 "2013-03-18T11:55:35Z")
New NEW [trailer](http://winteriscoming.net/2013/03/latest-game-of-thrones-trailer-shows-no-mercy/)! Looks like Sansa’s wedding, Brienne v. Jamie, Jamie and Brienne (in a dress) v. Bear, the making of Reek, Beric v. Hound, and a whole lot of awesome. Questions: is that Melisandre visiting Beric & Co. under the hill? Who’s the chick getting unlaced? Maybe Missandei. Finally, do you think they did tests of Daario all made up in colors and were like, “Uh, no.” ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/160 "2013-03-18T18:20:17Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > the making of Reek, I’m curious to see what they do here, since the vast majority of this happens “off-screen” in the books. I understand why they put it in, since having a sort-of main character be absent for a season or two is pretty unusual. Edit: Oh, the main reason I came in here. Very brief synopsis of the first few episodes: > **[American Gods review, Episode 303: “Ashes and Demons”](https://winteriscoming.net/2021/01/25/american-gods-review-episode-303-ashes-and-demons/)** > > American Gods delivers yet another solid episode as more of Wednesday's past is revealed and Laura Moon finds herself in purgatory. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208.md?page=9)