# Valar Hiatus: The Game of Thrones offseason thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208 "2012-06-05T22:13:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/161 "2013-03-18T18:32:58Z")

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> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#):
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> New NEW [trailer](http://winteriscoming.net/2013/03/latest-game-of-thrones-trailer-shows-no-mercy/)!..

Thanks! Who was Stannis talking to - or stabbing - on the beach?

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/162 "2013-03-19T15:36:58Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Thanks! Who was Stannis talking to - or stabbing - on the beach?

I don’t think he was stabbing her, just grabbing her and pulling her close.

My only guess is his wife? It certainly didn’t look like Mel.

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/163 "2013-03-20T01:29:16Z")

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I’m doing a rewatch to prep for S3 and I love it even more. And hate so many of the characters even more. I just want to punch that sister-humper Theon every time I see his smug face. Every time I rewatch, I notice something new, wonder if some throwaway line might be more significant in the next two books but we don’t know it yet.

I’m noticing how good Dany is, the actress, I mean. She sometimes makes an expression that looks like Viserys. Subtle, and not just the hair and coloring. Little details like that make rewatching totally worth it.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/164 "2013-03-20T01:53:27Z")

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This is a spoilery thread if you haven’t read the books BTW.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/165 "2013-03-20T22:33:04Z")

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It’s Melisandre with Stannis on the beach. See second 26 from this trailer [Game Of Thrones: Season 3 - "The Beast" Preview (HBO) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfSXhMzWoA4).

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/166 "2013-03-21T02:26:19Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> It’s Melisandre with Stannis on the beach. See second 26 from this trailer [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfSXhMzWoA4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfSXhMzWoA4).

She looks different. Has the role been recast? Or is that Stannis’s wife and queen?

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/167 "2013-03-21T03:16:49Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> She looks different. Has the role been recast? Or is that Stannis’s wife and queen?

Her hair has been dyed dark for some reason. Fine by me. She looked like she belonged on a Clairol box last season.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/168 "2013-03-21T03:39:03Z")

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It was appropriate though.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/169 "2013-03-21T21:49:42Z")

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New trailer.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pR1kjJBE_s)

0:09…

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/170 "2013-03-21T23:24:31Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> New trailer.
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player\_embedded&v=6pR1kjJBE\_s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6pR1kjJBE_s)
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> 0:09…

What is that, at 09? Looks like Talisa, John and Cat standing together, but I can’t imagine what that is about.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/171 "2013-03-21T23:38:38Z")

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> [@Taomist](#):
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> What is that, at 09? Looks like Talisa, John and Cat standing together, but I can’t imagine what that is about.

I’m guessing Red Wedding. Jeyne Westerling wasn’t there in the books, but since Talisa isn’t actually Jeyne, Jeyne’s connection to the Westerlings and Lannisters wouldn’t be in place to warn her.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/172 "2013-03-21T23:40:37Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> I’m guessing Red Wedding. Jeyne Westerling wasn’t there in the books, but since Talisa isn’t actually Jeyne, Jeyne’s connection to the Westerlings and Lannisters wouldn’t be in place to warn her.

Your assuming Talisa is who she says she is. My theory is that she’s been Tywin’s agent from the start - a composite of Jeyne and Jeyne’s mother.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/173 "2013-03-21T23:50:46Z")

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You can see wyman manderly and roose bolton behind them. RW.

I think talisa is legit, oona Chaplin talks about hiw in love they are in all her interviews and Robb made the first move so her being a lannister agent would be lucky.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/174 "2013-03-22T01:36:40Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> New trailer.
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player\_embedded&v=6pR1kjJBE\_s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6pR1kjJBE_s)…

Very cool. Is that the Great Sept of Baelor at 0:16?

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**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/175 "2013-03-22T12:06:48Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> I’m doing a rewatch to prep for S3 and I love it even more. And hate so many of the characters even more. I just want to punch that sister-humper Theon every time I see his smug face. Every time I rewatch, I notice something new, wonder if some throwaway line might be more significant in the next two books but we don’t know it yet.
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> I’m noticing how good Dany is, the actress, I mean. She sometimes makes an expression that looks like Viserys. Subtle, and not just the hair and coloring. Little details like that make rewatching totally worth it.

Having read the books (and internet theorizing about genealogies), Robert’s conversations with Ned in Ep1 are \*veeeery \*interesting. Especially in the crypt - Sean Bean does a great job with his body language.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/176 "2013-03-22T12:59:29Z")

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Good new trailer…loved the burning sword at the end.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/177 "2013-03-22T14:53:19Z")

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> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#):
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> Having read the books (and internet theorizing about genealogies), Robert’s conversations with Ned in Ep1 are \*veeeery \*interesting. Especially in the crypt - Sean Bean does a great job with his body language.

Yeah, I’m re-reading the books for the second time (saw Season 1, read books, saw Season 2 in that order), and the Ned/Robert conversations are a LOT more interesting this time around than they were when I read them / watched them the first time around.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/178 "2013-03-22T21:17:39Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> You can see wyman manderly and roose bolton behind them. RW.

Oh man, Roose…fuck that guy. I really hope that at some point, somehow, he gets what’s coming to him.

The North Remembers, and so do I.

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/179 "2013-03-23T01:51:22Z")

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> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#):
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> Having read the books (and internet theorizing about genealogies), Robert’s conversations with Ned in Ep1 are \*veeeery \*interesting. Especially in the crypt - Sean Bean does a great job with his body language.

I just read something about that today that I totally missed.

MAJOR BOOK 3-5 SPOILERS:

That the three people Robert addresses by name when first arriving at Winterfell are all dead: Ned, Cat, Robb. He asked for Arya’s name, and she is becoming faceless, and said something about how how strong the soon-to-be cripple Bran was. He talked about how pretty Sansa is, when she’ll soon be beaten up at court, and also nearly raped, and will have to disguise herself after her escape.

So many layers in this show.

I came across this guy’s [video blog](http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL542A996CE3A65444) about watching the series. Very, very NSFW language. It’s hilarious to watch because it wasn’t probably far from my thought process when I first watched. I cried laughing at his S1E9 review. Tears streaming down my face. Usually he goes on for 20+ minutes, detailing his thoughts, talking about plot, but that was basically 12 minutes of him saying “Fuck that shit.”

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valar-hiatus-the-game-of-thrones-offseason-thread/624208/180 "2013-03-23T11:10:07Z")

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He also video recorded his immediate reaction to S1E9. I just posted it in the thread about when your favorite TV character dies.

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