# Valerian. Anyone seen it. (Open Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 30, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerian-anyone-seen-it-open-spoilers/792467 "2017-07-30T23:36:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerian-anyone-seen-it-open-spoilers/792467/21 "2017-08-22T13:52:08Z")
I suppose in the future, mankind has discovered how to keep humans from aging. That’s the only way an experienced Special OPS veteran can look like he’s 20. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerian-anyone-seen-it-open-spoilers/792467/22 "2017-08-23T18:27:46Z")
> [@TYphoonSignal8](#): > > With the casting, you get the feeling that the studio had their way. There was no studio. If there had been, maybe their interference would have been for the better. As it is, _Valerian_ may go down as the biggest indie flop since _Heaven’s Gate_. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerian-anyone-seen-it-open-spoilers/792467/23 "2017-08-23T18:34:51Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I’m still just stunned at how badly Valerian was cast. I seriously can’t think of a worse miscast in a major movie. And I don’t just mean they should have cast a better actor. Jake Lloyd was terrible in _Phantom Menace_, but at least he looked the part. There’s a scene where Valerian explicitly describes himself, in apparent sincerity, as a square-jawed, dashing action hero. [This guy?](https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/article_small/public/thumbnails/image/2017/07/31/17/valerian.jpg) > > Get the fuck out of here. The thing is (as I noted above), in the original comic Valerian IS a square-jawed action hero: [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Valerian_and_Laureline.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Valerian_and_Laureline.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerian-anyone-seen-it-open-spoilers/792467/24 "2017-08-23T19:11:06Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I’m still just stunned at how badly Valerian was cast. I seriously can’t think of a worse miscast in a major movie. And I don’t just mean they should have cast a better actor. Jake Lloyd was terrible in _Phantom Menace_, but at least he looked the part. There’s a scene where Valerian explicitly describes himself, in apparent sincerity, as a square-jawed, dashing action hero. [This guy?](https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/article_small/public/thumbnails/image/2017/07/31/17/valerian.jpg) > > Get the fuck out of here. This should have been a Chris Pratt/Jennifer Lawrence movie, but they are both a bit played out now. ---
**Author:** ![TYphoonSignal8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@TYphoonSignal8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TYphoonSignal8)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerian-anyone-seen-it-open-spoilers/792467/25 "2017-08-24T03:35:24Z")
Nicholas Hoult for Valerian. And, I dunno, Hayley Bennett for Laureline. And yes, quite so **friedo** on it being an indie movie. Besson can only blame himself. > [@mlees](#): > > I suppose in the future, mankind has discovered how to keep humans from aging. That’s the only way an experienced Special OPS veteran can look like he’s 20. 🙂 20? Nah. 15. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerian-anyone-seen-it-open-spoilers/792467.md?page=1)